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Post by catz1 on Jul 11, 2008 9:13:38 GMT -6
I think I remember someone posting a nice article/document on basic blocking schemes including SAB. Can't seem to find the post.
Anyway, looking for more information on SAB.
We are thinking of using the concept for our counter game with Power & Gap schemes (mostly opposite Jet/Rocket). I think I will lose the double team on the playside, but can see some advantages also.
I know there are some good o-line guys here and appreciate the help.
Thanks.
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Post by coachmac99 on Jul 12, 2008 14:40:39 GMT -6
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Post by catz1 on Jul 13, 2008 10:52:14 GMT -6
Thanks Coach... some good information there. Our splits are about 2ft. Anyone have experience trying to use SAB with wider splits? We can certainly consider compressing to 1ft if needed for these plays. In the past we have not felt that teams made adjustments as we have moved between 1-2ft splits. Thinking about using the following rules (Power Counter example).... PSTE: GAP-DOWN-BACKER PST: GAP-DOWN-BACKER PSG: GAP-DOWN-BACKER CENTER: AWAY-ON BSG: PULL AND LEAD BST: FILL (as in Fill for pulling G & cutoff any penetration) FB would kickout the DE in this scheme. We could also run a CTR GAP or CTR TREY play with the same playside rules... BSG would then pull & kickout with BST pull & lead. I think the scheme is simple to teach in that the entire frontside is blocking down. I will lose the double team on the playside that most wing-T team look for. Any comments/suggestions? Thanks.
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Post by tecumseh22 on Mar 22, 2009 8:58:15 GMT -6
SAB dosent work very well with wider splits because it self destructs upon the start of the play, SAB is a track blocking scheme, you need tight splits so its used in a 'snowplow' method, otherwise you may as well use gap-on-linebacker. I guess with ALOT of practice and REALLY smart kids, you could get it to work but it wouldnt be a true SAB then, because everyone would have to step inside to wall off their inside gap, pointing them in the wrong direction for what you're trying to do. Maybe with the rules you posted it may work, but i wouldnt necessarily call your rules an "SAB" in the purest sense. Is your downblock 45 degrees or 30 degrees?
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Post by catz1 on Mar 22, 2009 9:30:10 GMT -6
Thanks Coach.
This a nice opportunity to do a post-mortem. We actually ran the play as a gap scheme as described above. We used it as a Jet counter.
We were not happy with the result. We experienced too much penetration and I think we needed to get our QB a little deeper to make the inside handoff. I am certain that we could have done a better job of coaching it. And, frankly we abandoned it relatively early in the season... we were more comfortable calling Truck (reverse) and Counter Dive (offset FB).
We are looking at possibly doubling the edge and we are thinking about leading with the BST instead of the BSG. We have good film on teams that run this counter and like what we see.
I think it's worth sharing some of our failures (in addition to the successes). Live and learn.
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