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Post by coachphillip on Jun 26, 2014 8:48:58 GMT -6
Okay guys. So, I cringe whenever I hear awful coaching from my staff or anybody else's. There's always the infamous "Block somebody!" or "Hit somebody!". I think I finally got those beat.
1) I was at a 7on7 tournament and our DB coach yells at our CB "You're not fast enough! Be faster!" He got burned on a Go because his eyes were in the backfield. Apparently, he's just not fast enough to do that.
2) Same 7on7. Opposing coach's LB was too busy trailing 2 on a slant and wasn't able to expand with 3 to the flat. Coach yells at him "YOU GOTTA BE A BALLER!"
What's the most ridiculous coaching point you've heard? This should be fun.
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Post by utchuckd on Jun 26, 2014 9:12:41 GMT -6
Heard a freshman receiver coach in pregame one time tell his kids to let the ball hit their pads and trap it against their body.
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Post by coachphillip on Jun 26, 2014 9:23:37 GMT -6
Heard a freshman receiver coach in pregame one time tell his kids to let the ball hit their pads and trap it against their body. Wonder how long he was saying that before anybody corrected him.
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Post by loop21572 on Jun 26, 2014 9:58:36 GMT -6
Another 7 on 7 gem. We hit a seam route just behind a linebacker. The kid had taken his read steps and was a step behind getting to his zone. His coach screams "This is all passing!!!! Don't worry about taking read steps!!! Just get deep!" Because you know, a coach wouldn't want a kid to act like it was an actual game.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 26, 2014 10:26:51 GMT -6
Another 7 on 7 gem. We hit a seam route just behind a linebacker. The kid had taken his read steps and was a step behind getting to his zone. His coach screams "This is all passing!!!! Don't worry about taking read steps!!! Just get deep!" Because you know, a coach wouldn't want a kid to act like it was an actual game. I was just literally going to post almost the same exact scenario. DC of a local team screamed "Why are you taking read steps? This is 7on7! They're not going to run the ball!" Sadly this team was the defending state champions from the previous year and made it to the semifinals that year. I guess it just proves that when you have studs, it doesn't matter what you tell them sometimes.
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Post by souza12 on Jun 26, 2014 10:55:46 GMT -6
1) I always hated pre-pass position being by the ear for a QB. I remember it being very popular with the Tedford/Rodgers era.
2) "READ IT!!!" well no {censored}, hes obviously confused or uninitiated and needs reps.
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Post by indian1 on Jun 26, 2014 11:14:58 GMT -6
Be an athlete!
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Post by fantom on Jun 26, 2014 11:22:18 GMT -6
Another 7 on 7 gem. We hit a seam route just behind a linebacker. The kid had taken his read steps and was a step behind getting to his zone. His coach screams "This is all passing!!!! Don't worry about taking read steps!!! Just get deep!" Because you know, a coach wouldn't want a kid to act like it was an actual game. I was just literally going to post almost the same exact scenario. DC of a local team screamed "Why are you taking read steps? This is 7on7! They're not going to run the ball!" Sadly this team was the defending state champions from the previous year and made it to the semifinals that year. I guess it just proves that when you have studs, it doesn't matter what you tell them sometimes. This isn't necessarily bad coaching. First of all, we read linemen. There aren't any so what are we reading? Secondly, do you need read steps in definite passing situations in real games? Do you want them falling for play action on 3rd and 15? Well, 7-on-7 is a definite passing situation. It's just teaching situational awareness.
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Post by oriolepower on Jun 26, 2014 11:33:02 GMT -6
I coached with a guy many years ago that used to yell,"Get your hips up!" It made no sense to me. He yelled it at every player on the field. He was old and I was a young guy afraid to ask.
If anyone knows what that is supposed to mean, I'd like to find out.
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Post by coachwilcox on Jun 26, 2014 11:55:36 GMT -6
I was just literally going to post almost the same exact scenario. DC of a local team screamed "Why are you taking read steps? This is 7on7! They're not going to run the ball!" Sadly this team was the defending state champions from the previous year and made it to the semifinals that year. I guess it just proves that when you have studs, it doesn't matter what you tell them sometimes. This isn't necessarily bad coaching. First of all, we read linemen. There aren't any so what are we reading? Secondly, do you need read steps in definite passing situations in real games? Do you want them falling for play action on 3rd and 15? Well, 7-on-7 is a definite passing situation. It's just teaching situational awareness. +1 Know the situation and play accordingly. Both taking your read step and not taking your read step is correct as long as the kids know why they are or aren't doing it.
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Post by coachwilcox on Jun 26, 2014 11:56:17 GMT -6
I coached with a guy many years ago that used to yell,"Get your hips up!" It made no sense to me. He yelled it at every player on the field. He was old and I was a young guy afraid to ask. If anyone knows what that is supposed to mean, I'd like to find out. Hips don't lie...
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 26, 2014 12:00:28 GMT -6
I was just literally going to post almost the same exact scenario. DC of a local team screamed "Why are you taking read steps? This is 7on7! They're not going to run the ball!" Sadly this team was the defending state champions from the previous year and made it to the semifinals that year. I guess it just proves that when you have studs, it doesn't matter what you tell them sometimes. This isn't necessarily bad coaching. First of all, we read linemen. There aren't any so what are we reading? Secondly, do you need read steps in definite passing situations in real games? Do you want them falling for play action on 3rd and 15? Well, 7-on-7 is a definite passing situation. It's just teaching situational awareness. If you never have them take read steps in a 7on7, how are they ever going to have practice of taking their steps and then bailing to their zones or pass reads?
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Post by fantom on Jun 26, 2014 12:17:52 GMT -6
This isn't necessarily bad coaching. First of all, we read linemen. There aren't any so what are we reading? Secondly, do you need read steps in definite passing situations in real games? Do you want them falling for play action on 3rd and 15? Well, 7-on-7 is a definite passing situation. It's just teaching situational awareness. If you never have them take read steps in a 7on7, how are they ever going to have practice of taking their steps and then bailing to their zones or pass reads? In practice we take read steps.
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 26, 2014 12:20:23 GMT -6
Isn't 7on7 just practice with another team?
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Post by fantom on Jun 26, 2014 12:25:51 GMT -6
Isn't 7on7 just practice with another team? Not a tournament. We don't want to do silly things and we do want to play good technique but we don't want to look bad either. We cn teach the stuff at home but for us every play is 3rd and long in a tournament.
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Post by souza12 on Jun 26, 2014 12:41:13 GMT -6
Isn't 7on7 just practice with another team? I guess it depends on approach.. for me its just a way to work on coverages and technique in an extreme situation such as having to cover longer than normal. Offensively getting timing down in extreme situations that they already know its pass
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 12:55:18 GMT -6
"Fly to the ball!"
Not bad in and of itself, but when that is LITERALLY your only coaching point for defense, and you're telling this to your LBs as they face a Wing-T team... well, there's a reason they just hung 63 on you in the first half.
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Post by souza12 on Jun 26, 2014 14:04:32 GMT -6
1) I was at a 7on7 tournament and our DB coach yells at our CB "You're not fast enough! Be faster!" He got burned on a Go because his eyes were in the backfield. Apparently, he's just not fast enough to do that. Was this yesterday at Chabot? Mt. Eden looked pretty good
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Post by coachphillip on Jun 26, 2014 15:01:06 GMT -6
Yessir.
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Post by wingtol on Jun 26, 2014 15:53:29 GMT -6
This is why I hate 7-7's.
I use the be an athlete line all the time, usually when someone trips over a cone or bag or falls doing our warm ups. Is that wrong lol
I hate "CATCH THE BALL" like he was trying to drop it or had no desire to catch the ball.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 26, 2014 16:04:12 GMT -6
I coached with a guy who would always scream at players to "stop freelancing." This isn't a terrible one depending on the situation, but that was all he'd ever yell at kids to do. Never would he stop to teach them what they were doing wrong.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 26, 2014 17:13:29 GMT -6
There is so much brain damage out there in the world of QB coaching I could list dozens. In the interest of full disclosure, I was part of it before learning otherwise. "Put it on him" or "you gotta make that pass" makes me want to punch people. No sh!t? Was he really trying to miss the receiver. I think sometimes coaches feel like they need to say SOMETHING and if they don't they're not doing their jobs and accepting failure. When in all actuality, saying nothing is better than the alternatives discussed.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jun 26, 2014 17:35:09 GMT -6
Had a hc ( great guy) tell the line men to play on there toes and not have all there cleats in the dirt. Same guy got a new slated chute and wanted to do board drills under it. Told him coach if the guy in the high side the guy on the low side might break his neck.
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Post by s73 on Jun 26, 2014 18:11:21 GMT -6
Okay guys. So, I cringe whenever I hear awful coaching from my staff or anybody else's. There's always the infamous "Block somebody!" or "Hit somebody!". I think I finally got those beat. 1) I was at a 7on7 tournament and our DB coach yells at our CB "You're not fast enough! Be faster!" He got burned on a Go because his eyes were in the backfield. Apparently, he's just not fast enough to do that. 2) Same 7on7. Opposing coach's LB was too busy trailing 2 on a slant and wasn't able to expand with 3 to the flat. Coach yells at him "YOU GOTTA BE A BALLER!" What's the most ridiculous coaching point you've heard? This should be fun. The worst thing I've ever said on the football field - here goes. I'm making myself vulnerable men. We are getting our "arses" KICKED all over the field about 10-11 years ago. This one kid who was infamous for making bad decisions is in the game (only had 17 bodies on the team, so save the comments). He's supposed to stalk a corner and the numbnuts think it's a pass and he runs a go and we pitch the ball and the corner CRUSHES our ball carrier. I look at his position coach and scream at the top of my lungs "that kid can't be involved in any plays that involve thinking". My wife was sitting in the top of the bleachers and heard me. She was about 20 feet from the opposing staff and she said they almost Pi$$ed themselves they were laughing so hard. Don't know if it's a coaching point but that's pretty frickin' bad. My wife still makes fun of me for it to this day. Not one of my best moments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2014 18:18:25 GMT -6
Okay guys. So, I cringe whenever I hear awful coaching from my staff or anybody else's. There's always the infamous "Block somebody!" or "Hit somebody!". I think I finally got those beat. 1) I was at a 7on7 tournament and our DB coach yells at our CB "You're not fast enough! Be faster!". In that same vein, at my last school, when one of our cocky (but pretty bad) players would ask our S&C coach what he needed to to get better, the S&C coach would deadpan "suck less." I could never be that sarcastic, but he was the type of kid who'd brag about that great tackle he made... completely omitting the fact it was against their 3rd string... 15 yards downfield... after someone else already had the BC wrapped up... and that the main reason the RB got there in the first place was because the kid doing the bragging had overran the play, gotten blocked, or took a terrible angle to let him get there.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 26, 2014 18:23:33 GMT -6
Okay guys. So, I cringe whenever I hear awful coaching from my staff or anybody else's. There's always the infamous "Block somebody!" or "Hit somebody!". I think I finally got those beat. 1) I was at a 7on7 tournament and our DB coach yells at our CB "You're not fast enough! Be faster!". In that same vein, at my last school, when one of our cocky (but pretty bad) players would ask our S&C coach what he needed to to get better, the S&C coach would deadpan "suck less." I could never be that sarcastic, but he was the type of kid who'd brag about that great tackle he made... completely omitting the fact it was against their 3rd string... 15 yards downfield... after someone else already had the BC wrapped up... and that the main reason the RB got there in the first place was because the kid doing the bragging had overran the play, gotten blocked, or took a terrible angle to let him get there. Is it really sarcastic? Sounds like the coach was spot on.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 26, 2014 18:24:17 GMT -6
To go with the last 2 stories, we once had a kid come into our office and ask what he had to do to get better and start. OC looks him straight in the eye and goes "you're never going to be a starter."
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Post by WTR on Jun 26, 2014 18:53:52 GMT -6
To go with the last 2 stories, we once had a kid come into our office and ask what he had to do to get better and start. OC looks him straight in the eye and goes "you're never going to be a starter." Lol. I have thought it on numerous occasions, but never said it.
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Post by morris on Jun 26, 2014 19:33:12 GMT -6
"You've gotta get upfield" That's what my HC said to our de. They were running counter trey so just kept getting kicked out.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 26, 2014 21:05:29 GMT -6
"You've gotta get upfield" That's what my HC said to our de. They were running counter trey so just kept getting kicked out. Isn't it the worst when the HC says something like what we're talking about? It's not like you can tell them to shut up like you can other assistants.
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