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Post by mhyland on May 27, 2015 19:02:40 GMT -6
Based on the way our HC teaches during team time I think that my DB INDY time should largely be spent on repping fundamentals and technique rather than just pure scheme stuff:
backpedal
opening hips and turn
plant/run step
recovering from false steps/slips
All of these require significant skill. We run cover 3 and man free and zero. I want my ten to 15 minutes to work on these and taking good angles. Not beating cover 3 and man to death.
how do you use your Indy time.
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Post by coachcmart on May 27, 2015 19:39:18 GMT -6
Indy time is for "putting brains in their muscles".
Building muscle memory by repping specific techniques like you say.
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Post by fantom on May 27, 2015 23:32:12 GMT -6
Based on the way our HC teaches during team time I think that my DB INDY time should largely be spent on repping fundamentals and technique rather than just pure scheme stuff: backpedal opening hips and turn plant/run step recovering from false steps/slips All of these require significant skill. We run cover 3 and man free and zero. I want my ten to 15 minutes to work on these and taking good angles. Not beating cover 3 and man to death. how do you use your Indy time. Indy period is for technique work not scheme stuff. In our's we do: footwork drills, ball drills, block destruction, run fits, and pattern reads. |
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Post by newhope on May 28, 2015 7:23:32 GMT -6
Agreed. Indy time is not scheme time. It's fundamental and technique time.
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Post by bluboy on May 28, 2015 7:31:05 GMT -6
Indy time is for "putting brains in their muscles". Building muscle memory by repping specific techniques like you say. I totally agree!!! I also coach DB's. Depending on the amount of time I get, I do feet, ball, tackle drills. If really limited for time, I will do 1 on 1's (that covers everything). |
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Post by lochness on May 28, 2015 7:34:11 GMT -6
Skills work only. We run approximately 3 drills per period that cover the specific skills your position athletes need to execute within the scheme.
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Post by wingtol on May 28, 2015 7:57:18 GMT -6
I have to disagree a bit when it's said Indy is not scheme time. With the OL you have to cover scheme with your guys when you have them, no other group works as a unit like the OL and I feel it's imparative to use some of Indy to cover who we are blocking along with the how. It's probably also why if you ask any OL how much Indy they want they say as much as I can get, which is never enough!
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Post by coachcmart on May 28, 2015 10:39:34 GMT -6
I have to disagree a bit when it's said Indy is not scheme time. With the OL you have to cover scheme with your guys when you have them, no other group works as a unit like the OL and I feel it's imparative to use some of Indy to cover who we are blocking along with the how. It's probably also why if you ask any OL how much Indy they want they say as much as I can get, which is never enough! Everything we do is based from zone. So we work combos and technique in Indy (and scheme, I guess). |
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Post by John Knight on May 28, 2015 11:21:22 GMT -6
One thing for sure! No Animal Drills!!
I teach zone blocking, I had a header that wanted me smacking the sled (shoulder blocks) most of my INDY time. I wanted to do him harm for that.
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Post by John Knight on May 28, 2015 11:31:12 GMT -6
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Post by agap on May 28, 2015 11:43:56 GMT -6
Technique and fundamentals mostly, very little scheme.
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Post by John Knight on May 29, 2015 6:17:44 GMT -6
My point is this, scheme determines your Fundamentals.
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Post by wingtol on May 29, 2015 6:21:56 GMT -6
Speaking to the OL guys here, if you don't teach scheme in Indy do you have other times just to teach that? I guess it can depend on what you run but the way we are set up after Indy we are into inside run or 7-7 or team and I know once we hit those periods the OL better know what's goin on.
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Post by John Knight on May 29, 2015 6:47:23 GMT -6
Pre-practice is a good time to review and add new stuff. I always want a scheme period after indy though before anything gets full go.
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Post by hammer66 on May 29, 2015 7:00:22 GMT -6
Indy for me is Fundys.... that directly tie into scheme. Footwork, blow delivery, IZ combo work to LB. Power Drill (Puller and Combo), Stretch drill, Screen drill. Its scheme but its fundamentals at the same time.
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Post by lochness on May 29, 2015 7:08:25 GMT -6
Speaking to the OL guys here, if you don't teach scheme in Indy do you have other times just to teach that? I guess it can depend on what you run but the way we are set up after Indy we are into inside run or 7-7 or team and I know once we hit those periods the OL better know what's goin on. After Indy, we do a period called "Run Group." Backs and QBs are on the spacing strips working meshes, footwork and timing. WRs are working stalk, downfield and cracks as well as quick screen game. OL works scheme at this point. It's a great period. We also have "Pass Group" where we do 7v7 or other pass drill with WR, RB, and QBs and the OL works protections. Allows us us to work strictly fundamentals during Indy. |
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Post by coachshepherd on May 29, 2015 12:21:14 GMT -6
Indy time is teaching/giving/repping the kids the tools to execute the scheme.
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Post by veerman on May 29, 2015 14:04:36 GMT -6
I agree, teach the fundamentals of your scheme in Indy.
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Post by fantom on May 29, 2015 14:20:36 GMT -6
I suppose a loot of this depends on what the OP means by "scheme stuff". As I said, part of our DB indy time is spent on pattern reading. To me that means teaching how to play the scheme using correct technique. Is that "scheme"? With the OL, after we work our footwork, drive block progression, down and reach blocks we go to a segment where we go through our blocking on each play. We usually use technique steps (Full speed to contact, no drive) for everybody except the guys involved in a certain combination. Is that scheme?
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Post by 33coach on May 29, 2015 15:21:41 GMT -6
Our DB EDDs are pretty similar.
Shuffle and break
Defeating blocks
Everything we do falls into one of those categories
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Post by ksmitty79 on May 31, 2015 20:31:56 GMT -6
My everyday drills are drive step/zone step/power pull/skip pull. I work both left and right foot as well as left and right handed stances. After that it's eitherSled work (mostly punch progressions) with three step drive or scheme pass block stuff. The one thing that doesn't change is the ED's. Thankfully I work for a head man that sees the value in INDY time. Myself and the DL coach get a tremendous amount of Indy time each week while pass skel is going on. I usually can get through my ED's in about 3-5 minutes. As far as going over scheme stuff I do that at the very end of Indy time as indy is high paced with high reps. At the end while they are getting watered up we go over fronts and scouting report and answer questions. Monday nights during the season we watch film after practice. I let the guys go and get dinner and bring it back to the field house, or I might even order pizza for them. It is only the offensive lineman as I feel it's important to do things as a unit.
Its funny once those "I'm a defensive lineman only" kids find out that they are getting fed all of a sudden want to play offensive line.
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 1, 2015 3:54:15 GMT -6
We use Indy Time for technique and fundamentals as it pertains to our schemes.
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Post by spreadpowero on Jun 1, 2015 5:22:20 GMT -6
We are all about fundamentals and technique during indy time.
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