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Post by airraider on Jul 7, 2015 21:19:17 GMT -6
Either as coordinator or HC, I have always been the next guy up.. or part of the next staff up... taking over bad programs and breathing new life into them. This has always been easy to get kids on board because in that situation something new is well received.
I just took over a team that went to the quarter finals last year. Had a great year with 9 wins... The HC leaves to take an OC job at a bigger school.
The problem is, he had a good handful of seniors last year that had been with him his whole 4 years here... several were 3 year starters. Had an outstanding QB, and 4 out of 5 skill kids all graduated.
Have a stud WR (2 SEC offers) a few RB types and 2 good athlete types.. Problem is.. no QB... at least no spread QB...
So we are going to have to adjust some things scheme wise to make this thing workout...
Well in I come and I am having a hard time with kids buying in to new schemes.
Offensively and Defensively we will be similar... but obviously we all tend to have our own wrinkles we like to install... and terminology.
The kids are questioning it and getting upset that we are not running the same stuff.
Anyone on here ever gone into a job that was at a high level with in the program and had problems getting buy in with new systems?
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Post by fantom on Jul 7, 2015 23:38:07 GMT -6
Either as coordinator or HC, I have always been the next guy up.. or part of the next staff up... taking over bad programs and breathing new life into them. This has always been easy to get kids on board because in that situation something new is well received. I just took over a team that went to the quarter finals last year. Had a great year with 9 wins... The HC leaves to take an OC job at a bigger school. The problem is, he had a good handful of seniors last year that had been with him his whole 4 years here... several were 3 year starters. Had an outstanding QB, and 4 out of 5 skill kids all graduated. Have a stud WR (2 SEC offers) a few RB types and 2 good athlete types.. Problem is.. no QB... at least no spread QB... So we are going to have to adjust some things scheme wise to make this thing workout... Well in I come and I am having a hard time with kids buying in to new schemes. Offensively and Defensively we will be similar... but obviously we all tend to have our own wrinkles we like to install... and terminology. The kids are questioning it and getting upset that we are not running the same stuff. Anyone on here ever gone into a job that was at a high level with in the program and had problems getting buy in with new systems? Always explain why. I always explain why we're doing things, whether it's scheme or a drill. Don't be afraid to answer questions either, if they're asked the right way. If you can answer logically, they'll buy in.
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Post by fcboiler87 on Jul 8, 2015 6:22:56 GMT -6
I've been in this situation for several months now. Historically, this program hasn't been very good, except for under the coach that was here before me. He has this demi-god type of status among people it seems at times. It is still a good program, perhaps not at the talent level he had (which is good part of the reason why he left). So things have been difficult in some aspects.
Overall, scheme hasn't been an issue. I'm actually going from an I formation type of team to a spread team. One, because it's what I know and two, we really do have players to execute it. I am struggling with some of the kids - i.e. the fullback who is now a guard and the tight end that is not really utilized (the TE wasn't very good any way and the fullback is a better guard). But overall scheme buy in has been fine.
My problem has been with expectations. They were never really expected to show up in the off season, work hard, etc. That sounds crazy but that is exactly what I have been fighting and they tell me how it was before. I've noticed this and I've heard it before - the young guys know no different. My best attendance is from sophomores and freshmen and half the junior class.
I don't know that it's the right answer, but I believe what you have to do is put what you believe in place, explain why and sell, sell, sell. Then stand by what and why you are doing it no matter what.
I think what some people may say is if you are new in that situation, try not to radically change things. That will make the transition easier. I didn't necessarily do that. Like you, I have been in programs where you are working to change things around. I've worked to hold on to traditions, etc. but have stuck to my guns as far as building the program as I see fit. We will see how that goes. We have a pretty decent team and have the potential to do well, but we will see how the buy in goes. If it gets better, we should do well. If not, we could struggle.
I am looking forward to any other input, as I have often thought about this same question.
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Post by coachphillip on Jul 8, 2015 7:40:52 GMT -6
Make sure you spend a lot of time grooming the freshmen and sophomore classes. You need to develop strong relationships with them. They're the kids that will make or break you there in a few years.
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