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Post by fantom on Jul 27, 2015 14:19:08 GMT -6
What was the primary reason why you left your last coaching job. I realize that there are usually multiple reasons but there's also usually one that was the main reason. When I say "Fired" that includes if the whole staff got the ax.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 27, 2015 14:30:54 GMT -6
My last job "technically" was me helping out a Jr. High program. Maybe it was uppity, but trying to help out someone with maybe 1/3rd of the experience I had and him not listening was frustrating. He was a great guy, stepping up to help the kids when the previous coach had stepped down, but it was frustrating on a football level. In a league of maybe 5 teams, if you picked the top 10 players, we probably had 8 of them. We should have won every game by 40 and all of the kids should have played a ton. Instead we just played about 15 kids total and we tied for the league championship.
Job before that was a GREAT jr high job. Header was a former HS DC and both he and I worked great together. We both "got it" in that we weren't auditioning to be the next Lombardi. One of the few coaching jobs where I could say you "made money" when you looked at pay vs time put in. Sadly, I was driving an hour there and an hour back to coach for about an hour (or less) because of school schedules. If it were closer, I would still work with him.
Before that, left the HS and college jobs simply because I grew bored with FB.
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Post by jgordon1 on Jul 27, 2015 14:55:03 GMT -6
Was let go by an interim principal..I stayed teaching one year but left for a new school
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 27, 2015 15:31:33 GMT -6
I chose "Other" because I dunno where this one fits.
Was teaching English at a good, not great program under a HC who was a good man, solid coach.
Got an opportunity to teach PE at my alma mater, which is currently going through a fabulous run of success under a HOF caliber HC at the tail end of his career (40 years coaching).
Took it and haven't looked back, except for the fact that we play my former school Week 1. Turns out I make a little bit more now even though I'm paid less because I've lost a 35 mile commute and gotten a better benefits package.
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Post by fantom on Jul 27, 2015 15:34:24 GMT -6
Clarification:
I can see that I worded one answer poorly. If you lost your coaching job, whether or not you kept your teaching job, answer "Fired".
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Post by abkillen on Jul 27, 2015 16:00:55 GMT -6
The main reason I took my new job at the beginning of this summer was a better teaching situation. The programs are at about the same level football wise. I am going from having 100 kids in my PE class to only having about 30. I also don't have any lesson plans or paper work to deal with, I am done teaching around 1:45 and get to head to the field. Will have all players by 2. It was about a 3,000 a year pay raise, but the better teaching environment was the main reason.
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Post by newt21 on Jul 27, 2015 16:52:29 GMT -6
I picked got fired, basically I took a chance on an interim teaching position and apparently they weren't very happy with my work and didn't resign me after one year. I became a free agent and that's how I got to the school I'm at today.
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Post by coachg13 on Jul 27, 2015 18:00:52 GMT -6
I chose one - left for a HC job. But I would've made a lateral move after this season if I hadn't moved up. Long story our HC got fired for BS reasons that he couldn't control. I probably would've left even if he hadn't been fired.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jul 27, 2015 19:10:26 GMT -6
HC, pay raise, nowhere near as successful on the field...working to change that
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Post by jg78 on Jul 27, 2015 20:51:09 GMT -6
I work in a private school league where board members have a lot of power at each school. I butted heads with a powerful board member after a loss about halfway through my second year at my old school when we went 3-7. I didn't lose my cool or anything, just frankly told him we didn't have the athletes to win a lot of games with our schedule. Apparently he did not like that (his son was a player) and tried to rally a few other board members to get me fired. However, I stayed on (mainly because of my principal's support) and we went 10-3 the next year, state runner-up and I was COTY. Anyway, my principal called me in the office in February after the season and said the same board member was still after me. Knowing that we were losing a bunch of seniors and wouldn't be as good again for the foreseeable future, I came in the next day and told my principal that I was going to resign at the end of the year.
I caught on at another school as DC, where I have been the last two years. We have gone 21-4 with a state championship in 2014. Meanwhile, my old school (which plays one class below us) has gone 11-10 and was down 61-0 at halftime last year to the same team that caused the board member to started bitching at me after the game (my loss wasn't anywhere near that bad). And (all things considered) I make just as much money.
It worked out well. I would not have taken my current job had I not been pressured at my old job - because I had no idea of the quality of athletes I would inherit here. I got lucky. The board member being a jerk was the best thing for my career. Funny how things work out sometimes.
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Post by silkyice on Jul 27, 2015 21:38:17 GMT -6
Principal. The school I left had 6 head coaches in 5 years. You read that correctly.
I was head coach at a school for 10 years. Then head at a school for 3. Then head at that school for 1. Now starting year number 5 at my current school.
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Post by pvogel on Jul 28, 2015 6:11:47 GMT -6
it sucked
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Post by wingtol on Jul 28, 2015 6:24:08 GMT -6
HC resigned and we all left with him for new school.
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Post by utchuckd on Jul 28, 2015 6:40:04 GMT -6
According to the Principal I didn't get fired, they just didn't renew my contract.
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Post by blb on Jul 28, 2015 6:46:54 GMT -6
The major sticking point for me was we ran out of coaches because the district pays so poorly, and administration wasn't going to do anything to remedy it.
I got tired of trying to swim upstream by myself, especially doing all the game preparation (weekends).
I did not want to be a head coach any more, at least in that situation-under those circumstances.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jul 28, 2015 13:58:09 GMT -6
It was the wise thing to do.
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Post by coach2013 on Jul 28, 2015 14:26:38 GMT -6
Lies- I left because of lies.
I don't work for dishonest people. I also happened to double my salary in the process.
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Post by wolverine55 on Jul 28, 2015 14:40:18 GMT -6
According to the Principal I didn't get fired, they just didn't renew my contract. Technically, this is what happened to me too, although that's basically the same thing as being fired. Fortunately, my current job came with a teaching job, so I would have been moving on after only one more season anyway.
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Post by newhope on Jul 28, 2015 19:22:05 GMT -6
They offered a buttload more money. I would have been an idiot not to take it, not only in terms of now, but it will bump my retirement considerably.
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 28, 2015 19:28:17 GMT -6
They offered a buttload more money. I would have been an idiot not to take it, not only in terms of now, but it will bump my retirement considerably. I'm of the opinion that one should never make decisions based purely on money... except when you totally should.
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Post by lions23 on Jul 28, 2015 19:43:26 GMT -6
School closed. My HC got a new job. I went with. Had to wait a bit but they got me a teaching gig too. AD is great and So is the principal. They get us all kinds of extra money/stipends doing stuff we would do anyway like chaperoning basketball games and trips doing "football" and "weight lifting" intramurals. I'm actually going to give some of it away to a young volunteer assistant I hired who turned out to be great.
It could be a really tough place but it is a lot of fun and very supportive environment has been established.
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Post by newhope on Jul 28, 2015 19:47:31 GMT -6
They offered a buttload more money. I would have been an idiot not to take it, not only in terms of now, but it will bump my retirement considerably. I'm of the opinion that one should never make decisions based purely on money... except when you totally should. I agree with you to an extent. I've turned jobs down for money. I've taken jobs for less money. If I was completely enamored of my previous job, it would have taken even more to leave. However, this was in the 20 percent pay increase range and there were some things at my previous job that I wasn't really happy about and was never going to be able to change and I had begun to become frustrated as that realization set in. But in taking the job I did over some others---significant money played a huge role and I wouldn't be truthful if I didn't admit it. Obviously, the public answer is some of the other things: a challenge, a chance to build something (this is what I like to do), etc....which is all true. I just don't say a lot about the money part (because it's not the public's business). As poorly paid as we are in the state of NC, a significant pay raise is important.
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Post by fantom on Jul 28, 2015 20:42:33 GMT -6
I'm of the opinion that one should never make decisions based purely on money... except when you totally should. I agree with you to an extent. I've turned jobs down for money. I've taken jobs for less money. If I was completely enamored of my previous job, it would have taken even more to leave. However, this was in the 20 percent pay increase range and there were some things at my previous job that I wasn't really happy about and was never going to be able to change and I had begun to become frustrated as that realization set in. But in taking the job I did over some others---significant money played a huge role and I wouldn't be truthful if I didn't admit it. Especially since, as you said, when you're nearing retirement a 20% raise is a raise for life.
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Post by PSS on Jul 30, 2015 5:24:28 GMT -6
I had to get closer to my Mother. She has Alzheimer's Disease and there are times in the offseason that I have to take her to the doctor. Also, because of her deteriorating health I wanting to be near her so I could visit anytime I wanted.
Moved 10 hours across the state. I would say it was a big move.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jul 30, 2015 6:32:40 GMT -6
Two reasons.
1. To get closer to family. My 9 month old has some heart issues, has already made it through one open heart surgery, and the support helps.
2. My school passed on me for our HC opening (which isn't a big deal). They told me that they wanted somebody with more experience and involvement in the community. They hired a younger guy with little to no experience who lived further a way. What they meant was they wanted a Mormon. Phukin Utah.
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Post by agap on Jul 31, 2015 21:40:11 GMT -6
Promotion to HC
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Post by coachdubyah on Jul 31, 2015 22:06:53 GMT -6
Philosophical differences. Took the job as OC. Successful first season, plague of injuries and relieved of play calling my second. Honestly, this was done to take the heat off me, which I respected but still didn't like. This past year I was just the Oline guy with only the title of OC. Decided to take a job at a larger school just being Oline coach and I will not leave here unless it's an OC deal with full control or a Head Coaching gig. The teaching gig is way better and I'm working under an OC that's been in coaching for 30 years. I'm relearning how to coach this year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 6:32:31 GMT -6
I left for many reasons. Lack of respect, was in a program that had no direction or mission, philosophical differences with the hc & I had the opportunity of a lifetime come my way so I bailed.
Duece
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Post by CS on Aug 1, 2015 7:03:51 GMT -6
Took one for the team. Wife is going back to school in a specialized program that was to far for her to drive to at my last job.
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Post by freezeoption on Aug 1, 2015 7:09:47 GMT -6
I was riffed. No big deal, I knew it would be a short term gig, just needed a place after the previous job. It was a crazy school and I had at risk and iss. Probably could have stayed and took the social studies job that opened but I needed a change.
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