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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 1, 2017 13:38:03 GMT -6
Had a good one a few years ago. Started the season 5-0 (first time in school history) and got a phone call from a parent saying he thought I did a great job, but we need to balance the offense more. I got some bad news for you... We're 24-1 in the last 2 years and I STILL field e-mails and phone calls from folks trying to tell me how to run our program. It seems like it will NEVER stop
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 1, 2017 13:47:31 GMT -6
Mine are the outside influences on kids. The travel 7 on 7 teams, the schools who have a bunch of people recruiting for them to beat the bushes, and even the need for social media. Getting kind of tired of seeing kids tweet about how blessed they are to go to XYZ college. The fact that high school football becomes more about other things than building young men gets pretty frustrating for me as well. Also, the fact that playing for the neighborhood school doesn't have the same appeal as it once did.
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Post by coolhandluke on Feb 1, 2017 13:54:15 GMT -6
People who think that defense is nothing more than just "flying around." Wait a minute... should I be telling my kids something different? If that is ALL you say, then I would say yes.
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Post by center on Feb 1, 2017 13:57:17 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. A coach here in MO that set the record for most state titles consecutively won (6) admitted at a clinic yesterday the reason he has won so many titles is that he has been lucky/blessed to have great players the last 6 years. Some guys in there were pissed because they thought he was holding back some secret he wouldn't tell everybody. He wasn't lying, he's been blessed to have a few D1/D2 kids that were just flat out better than his competition. They literally only run a 4-3 over cover 0 on defense, and DTDW and Power I on offense. One of the few times I've heard a coach admit they won because of players/talent and not scheme. I respect the guy for being honest. And even with the talent the guy is doing something right.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 1, 2017 14:59:55 GMT -6
I feel your pain. I currently have a kid who is a master with our jet option stuff, he literally averages 280 yards per game rushing the ball. I get that stuff too.....why do you run the same play???etc. I have to bit my tongue with these fans - if it aint broke, don't fix it right? I don't get it asked it but my answer would be, "because it works".
Had one of those grandparents behind me at a JV once. He keeps calling the same things....Look we can't protect to run hitch or block them on power. It's not gonna matter what I call, we're going to get our butts kicked.
You're absolutely right. If your guys can't block one play, it doesn't mean that they'll be able to block a different one nor does it mean they'll be able to pass block either.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Feb 1, 2017 15:32:59 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths * coaches that punctuate every sentence with a call for acknowledgement "aight", "mmmmkay", etc Or say aaaa, all the time I wind up counting that and not paying attention Dang adult ADD
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Post by blb on Feb 1, 2017 16:14:39 GMT -6
Wait a minute... should I be telling my kids something different? If that is ALL you say, then I would say yes.
If they are running the ball right at you up inside - "Flying Around" doesn't help you much.
In fact might just get you out of position faster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 16:24:02 GMT -6
I took flack 2 years ago for running inside zone 90% of the time. I had a beast RB who could score from anywhere on the field on any touch. We won by an average of 30 points all year. Fans are stupid and make me rage. I feel your pain. I currently have a kid who is a master with our jet option stuff, he literally averages 280 yards per game rushing the ball. I get that stuff too.....why do you run the same play???etc. I have to bit my tongue with these fans - if it aint broke, don't fix it right? We had a game this year where we only ran 2/3 Veer the entire game and destroyed our opponent. I had a couple dads tell me that we should have thrown the ball.
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Post by dytmook on Feb 1, 2017 16:33:37 GMT -6
I feel your pain. I currently have a kid who is a master with our jet option stuff, he literally averages 280 yards per game rushing the ball. I get that stuff too.....why do you run the same play???etc. I have to bit my tongue with these fans - if it aint broke, don't fix it right? We had a game this year where we only ran 2/3 Veer the entire game and destroyed our opponent. I had a couple dads tell me that we should have thrown the ball. Ahh yes we had that. Won the game 42-7. It was 35-0 at the half. Had parents angry about stats and/or the lack thereof. It was also the first year with a running clock here so we were unfamiliar on how to pace the second half. Still, we won easy. I can't ask for much more.
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Post by raisingcanes on Feb 1, 2017 17:22:12 GMT -6
Not getting called back after having awesome interviews is kinda making me rage right now.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 1, 2017 17:47:43 GMT -6
Not getting called back after having awesome interviews is kinda making me rage right now. Not getting HC jobs that I want is making me rage. Not being able to move back up to varsity because I'm in a program with no turnover makes me rage. My lack of patience makes me rage too.
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Post by ylspecial on Feb 1, 2017 18:48:37 GMT -6
Arrogant opposing coaches... especially, arrogant opposing coaches who are loaded that year and have traditionally been bad...
Referees who will not come and talk to me after a questionable call
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 1, 2017 19:21:37 GMT -6
I' think I'm going to speak at a clinic and talk about the generic phrases that make a great coach. If you're not using these, then you're not really coaching. They include but are not limited to:
-Fly around -Make a play -Block someone -Be an athlete -catch the ball -make a tackle (i would say "wrap up" but that's too detailed for this clinic). -Gotta want it.
If you want to win games and aren't using these phrases, then clearly you don't care about building a winning program.
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Post by nicku on Feb 1, 2017 19:50:18 GMT -6
For me personally, it's when anybody-parents, other coaches, whoever talk down to me because I coach middle school ball and act like I don't know my ace from my elbow because if I did "I wouldn't be coaching middle school ball". That's damn near just being a bully to think lesser of someone for that. "Oh, you're a middle school coach? All they do is teach the key fundamentals that lead to success at the varsity level, as well as scouting and assisting for the varsity coaches to be successful. Haha, what a loser!"
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 1, 2017 20:17:11 GMT -6
clinics * coaches that insist on public speaking with an entire pack of dip in their mouths * coaches that punctuate every sentence with a call for acknowledgement "aight", "mmmmkay", etc Our AD's go to phrase is "and so on and so forth" ends like half his sentences with that... when he is trailing on and doesnt know how to finish the sentence he says this few years ago, pre season sports meeting. All HCs meet with him... he goes through his whole agenda and talks for 30 minutes Our HC tallied the results and he said "and so on and so forth" 36 times!
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Post by carookie on Feb 1, 2017 20:28:55 GMT -6
I' think I'm going to speak at a clinic and talk about the generic phrases that make a great coach. If you're not using these, then you're not really coaching. They include but are not limited to: -Fly around -Make a play -Block someone -Be an athlete -catch the ball -make a tackle (i would say "wrap up" but that's too detailed for this clinic). -Gotta want it. If you want to win games and aren't using these phrases, then clearly you don't care about building a winning program. I will say this about 'generic coaching phrases' because I'm sure I use them at times. They aren't an attempt to coach, they are more just wishing out loud or having an emotional response. I don't constantly need to be talking to my players during the game, I work hard in practice to prepare them for the game when I won't be there. So during the week when I work near foot engagement, shock and shed, shrug move, etc. I am developing the technique and coaching them up. However, if during a game I yell out "gotta get off a block" I am not intending it as a coaching point nor am I expecting the player to hear it or react to it. Its just me being emotional, no different than if a coach yelled out 'Damnit' (does he really want the player to damn something?) Now, could I yell at my player "attack the block with your near foot, maintain leverage, keep your hips,shock and shed"? Sure, but the action I am yelling about is something that he probably can't think about during the game, and it really needs to just be a reaction that he has learned through weeks of practice. So in lieu of yelling out a litany of instructions to a player who is on the field getting ready for the next play I may just blurt out an emotional, "get off a block" in my excited state.
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Feb 1, 2017 20:34:37 GMT -6
the biggest thing that bugs me is kids dont care about HS football anymore the game of HS football is ruined here (and probably even worse in Socal) 1. kids arent going where they grew up, they lie and fake address and try to make little super teams 2. kids are more focused on all the outside crap like 7on7 teams and other BS rather than getting better with their teammates It's the sad reality we're approaching. As the years go on, I fear HSFB will be seen as a stepping stone to CFB/NFL rather than the great American tradition it is meant to be. Let's pray that doesn't happen
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Post by coolhandluke on Feb 1, 2017 21:21:25 GMT -6
Had a good one a few years ago. Started the season 5-0 (first time in school history) and got a phone call from a parent saying he thought I did a great job, but we need to balance the offense more. I got some bad news for you... We're 24-1 in the last 2 years and I STILL field e-mails and phone calls from folks trying to tell me how to run our program. It seems like it will NEVER stop I remember my first couple years coaching I worked with a guy who had won multiple state championships (5) as a baseball coach and had recently retired from coaching baseball and moved to our school, about 300 miles away. He just coached football with us. His last year at the old school they won another state championship and it's like 15 minutes after the final out is recorded and he is feeling great. And then a mother approaches him and starts chewing his a$$ about why her son did not get to play more that season and specifically in that day's game. He said that's when he knew he was ready to go do something else.
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Post by CoachJohnsonMN on Feb 1, 2017 21:46:45 GMT -6
1. We were in the middle of a sub-.500 season & our senior RB told me that his brother was talking to some work buddies about how we could improve. One of these buddies had won a state championship & gave him his unstoppable offensive playbook. The player gave me this playbook claiming he loved the blocking schemes. It was a Wing-T playbook. We were a Wing-T team.
2. Recently had a dad send me a PM through Facebook messenger giving me suggestions on how we could move his son around our defense. He put a lot of thought into it. He claimed we'd be better because his son was the "biggest bad ass in the conference." This "biggest bad ass" took himself out of one of our biggest playoff games at halftime because of a friggin' sprained ankle.
Suggestions from know-it-all do-nothings piss me off.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 1, 2017 21:48:02 GMT -6
I' think I'm going to speak at a clinic and talk about the generic phrases that make a great coach. If you're not using these, then you're not really coaching. They include but are not limited to: -Fly around -Make a play -Block someone -Be an athlete -catch the ball -make a tackle (i would say "wrap up" but that's too detailed for this clinic). -Gotta want it. If you want to win games and aren't using these phrases, then clearly you don't care about building a winning program. I will say this about 'generic coaching phrases' because I'm sure I use them at times. They aren't an attempt to coach, they are more just wishing out loud or having an emotional response. I don't constantly need to be talking to my players during the game, I work hard in practice to prepare them for the game when I won't be there. So during the week when I work near foot engagement, shock and shed, shrug move, etc. I am developing the technique and coaching them up. However, if during a game I yell out "gotta get off a block" I am not intending it as a coaching point nor am I expecting the player to hear it or react to it. Its just me being emotional, no different than if a coach yelled out 'Damnit' (does he really want the player to damn something?) Now, could I yell at my player "attack the block with your near foot, maintain leverage, keep your hips,shock and shed"? Sure, but the action I am yelling about is something that he probably can't think about during the game, and it really needs to just be a reaction that he has learned through weeks of practice. So in lieu of yelling out a litany of instructions to a player who is on the field getting ready for the next play I may just blurt out an emotional, "get off a block" in my excited state. I tell my coaches that whenever they say those things during practice that they aren't any better a coach than the people up In the stands who say "get him!" Or "come on coach!"
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Post by Defcord on Feb 2, 2017 7:18:15 GMT -6
I' think I'm going to speak at a clinic and talk about the generic phrases that make a great coach. If you're not using these, then you're not really coaching. They include but are not limited to: -Fly around -Make a play -Block someone -Be an athlete -catch the ball -make a tackle (i would say "wrap up" but that's too detailed for this clinic). -Gotta want it. If you want to win games and aren't using these phrases, then clearly you don't care about building a winning program. This stuff drives me nuts as well. Last year, I am not proud of it, I lost my stuff on our D-Line coach because yelled "Watch the ball at three kids after they jumped." I wasn't mad exclusively at the fact he yelled an obvious point. I was frustrated because I had to constantly ask him not to run every drill on "Set-Hut." I think the kids are better served if he would start drills on ball movement than if he yells obvious statements at them during the game.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 2, 2017 7:39:38 GMT -6
I' think I'm going to speak at a clinic and talk about the generic phrases that make a great coach. If you're not using these, then you're not really coaching. They include but are not limited to: -Fly around -Make a play -Block someone -Be an athlete -catch the ball -make a tackle (i would say "wrap up" but that's too detailed for this clinic). -Gotta want it. If you want to win games and aren't using these phrases, then clearly you don't care about building a winning program. This stuff drives me nuts as well. Last year, I am not proud of it, I lost my stuff on our D-Line coach because yelled "Watch the ball at three kids after they jumped." I wasn't mad exclusively at the fact he yelled an obvious point. I was frustrated because I had to constantly ask him not to run every drill on "Set-Hut." I think the kids are better served if he would start drills on ball movement than if he yells obvious statements at them during the game. Stuff like this really helped me change my practice style....I realized I was yelling the same crap every game to the same kids, yet never focused on it in practice. My practice routine is now a constantly-evolving string of drills and concepts...sometimes we all do a drill for 5 minutes so we can help 1 guy focus on an aspect of his game. I'm now satisfied when my kids consistently make the same mistakes in a game, and I tell them that. It gives us something to work on in practice, and the kids really take ownership of their play, especially when NEXT game that mistake no longer takes place. I no longer make myself rage at my own shortcomings in this matter!!
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Feb 2, 2017 11:58:01 GMT -6
I love this game to death, but a lot of the state of today's game makes me rage. Here's the things that get under my skin the most (in no order):
1.) Offensive playbook critics -- The ones that think everybody needs to run 100 formations, have no identity, and most of all BALANCE your running/passing game. Because if someone puts 8 guys in the box, you can't run the ball. It's impossible. These guys don't know squat about football besides what commentators say on the weekends, but are the first to want to correct someone who's been coaching football for years. They will try to run you out of town if you're different schematically, regardless of any success the offense has.
2.) HSFB becoming a stepping stone -- Coach bdud already touched on this. The sad trend of CFB being nothing more than a stepping stone to the NFL is coming down to HS. Nobody wants to represent their hometown anymore. It's all about dream teams, 7-on-7's and getting noticed. Worst of all though, is some of these kids making "business decisions". It's a disgrace to the other 50 kids on the team who'll never play CFB. I also see too much promotion of the college a kid is committing to during games. Example: a few years ago a RB scored a dramatic TD late in the school's 1st state championship game and his response was pulling up his jersey and showing off his Mississippi State undershirt. Makes me sick.
3.) Kids doing stupid $hit to get pumped up -- I don't mind kids running through a banner or having a simple little pregame routine to get their mind right. When I played, if I didn't listen to exactly 30 songs on my iPod before the game, I wasn't having a good game. But now, it's even worse. I watched ESPN last Sunday morning and they did a 30 for 30 short on a HSFB team in Western PA. Nice little story, but they showed one of the kids running out before the game wearing a Saw mask. Like the scary movie, Saw. I have a pretty open mind, but that's just fricking weird. A couple years ago, some hot-shot DE committed to Auburn insisted that he carry a Chucky doll around wherever he went to show everyone that he's a "killer on the field" or some stupid crap like that. Not to mention that kids HAVE to take 1000 pregame selfies in the locker room now.
4.) When other teams are unsound schematically -- I understand players win games, but I still like a good chess match. There are so many teams now that run every offense and every defense imaginable. These teams are never fun to play, and that's not a compliment. It seriously looks like some of these teams think it's like Madden.
5.) "BLOCK SOMEBODY!!", "WRAP UP!!" -- That's just what players and fans yell. I can't stand coaches yelling that. Wait till he goes to the sideline (or sub him out), and be a COACH. Tell him the specifics of what he did wrong and give him real coaching points on how to improve it.
6.) "_______ doesn't work". No proven scheme just "doesn't work". People who say this are lazy and need to either improve or get out of coaching. The game isn't won on a whiteboard, it's won in the weight room and during indy time when you're drilling fundamentals.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Feb 2, 2017 13:49:22 GMT -6
Made me shake my head more than anything. Was a 22 year old varsity position coach sitting in film session listening to an older coach that had two sayings "Grow up and be a man" and "Play the way you're coached". Another guy and I used to take bets on the over/under #
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Post by carookie on Feb 2, 2017 14:55:04 GMT -6
Made me shake my head more than anything. Was a 22 year old varsity position coach sitting in film session listening to an older coach that had two sayings "Grow up and be a man" and "Play the way you're coached". Another guy and I used to take bets on the over/under # HAHA, I used to coach for a HC who had several standbys such as these (as well as some go to videos), a bunch of the assistants used to play "Coach _________ Bingo" where we'd each choose 3 of them, and the first one to get a mention of each of their 3 won. You also gotta love the "play the way you're coached", which to me is the laziest excuse in coaching. Players will ALWAYS play the way they are coached, maybe you just aren't actually coaching them the way you think you are.
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Post by coachtua on Feb 2, 2017 14:55:38 GMT -6
Tomorrow. I absolutely despise what Signing Day has become, as well as the changes in recruiting that it represents. I can't stand the D1Bound mentality. I have had a few kids the last couple years pass on a D2, D3, NAIA opportunities because it wasn't D1. They go to a Juco and either end their career there or end up somewhere besides a D1 anyway...
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 2, 2017 16:51:32 GMT -6
Tomorrow. I absolutely despise what Signing Day has become, as well as the changes in recruiting that it represents. I can't stand the D1Bound mentality. I have had a few kids the last couple years pass on a D2, D3, NAIA opportunities because it wasn't D1. They go to a Juco and either end their career there or end up somewhere besides a D1 anyway... I am not a fan of the D1bound clothing line/social media account simply because it is all BS 1. the kids who buy it usually suck 2. the good players who really go D1 actually get it for free 3. D1 bound is not an attitude or anything you can work hard enough to achieve... it is hitting the genetic jackpot and then just not screwing it up after that ... no kid can work himself into being a D1 player... need a certain height/speed level to get to that 4. makes kids look down on FCS, D2, D3, Juco football... we have kids who wouldnt start on an average JC team next year that think they are D1 bound
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2017 18:36:52 GMT -6
I'm in FL, so my beef is not getting paid what we're freaking worth...
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Post by dblwngr on Feb 2, 2017 19:16:24 GMT -6
Coaches/People that say "If you only run man coverage you better have a bunch of studs in the secondary!"
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Post by coachdubyah on Feb 2, 2017 19:49:40 GMT -6
1. Crossfit WODS for football workouts.
2. Doing something in your program because someone else does it...keeping up with the Joneses I guess you could say. If I ever become a HC, we will not stay after school to lift.
3. Assuming a kid "can't do something".
4. I'll echo the "Entrance Stuff". The Purge entrance was very disturbing to me. It's a game.
5. This may be petty but it irritates me...Preferred Walk Ons having signings. It bothers me.
I'll also inform everyone on Huey that I'm accepting a pay check and committed to coach my High School for next season. #Blessed
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