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Post by B-gap-attack on Feb 2, 2017 19:55:32 GMT -6
Holier than thou coaches. Who think you must do things a certain way to be successful. I'll second the whole signing process. Kids acting like they're celebrities over a scholarship to a sub school.
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Post by lmorris on Feb 3, 2017 8:16:54 GMT -6
Anytime I hear a coach scream "Block somebody" and they have no clue what they are talking about Oh I've used this one at times....but it generally follows, "if you're not going to block the guy your supposed to"......and followed by "don't turn around and watch the play". My DC...."you just cheated the gate of 5 dollars, you should have bought a ticket to watch"
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Post by The Lunch Pail on Feb 3, 2017 11:04:32 GMT -6
I have a new one to add on to my list:
7.) Visors who oversell character, integrity, etc. glad that people are teaching values and such but some guys just overdo it. I hate listening to some visor wearing douche show a clip of their Fade RPO and talk about how their left tackle made a "5th level character play".
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Post by B-gap-attack on Feb 3, 2017 11:22:08 GMT -6
Coaches who think they know everything about everything (including stuff they've never studied or coached). "Do we have a zone cutback play?" Smh
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 8, 2017 23:56:53 GMT -6
I can't stand the D1Bound mentality. I have had a few kids the last couple years pass on a D2, D3, NAIA opportunities because it wasn't D1. They go to a Juco and either end their career there or end up somewhere besides a D1 anyway... I am not a fan of the D1bound clothing line/social media account simply because it is all BS 1. the kids who buy it usually suck 2. the good players who really go D1 actually get it for free 3. D1 bound is not an attitude or anything you can work hard enough to achieve... it is hitting the genetic jackpot and then just not screwing it up after that ... no kid can work himself into being a D1 player... need a certain height/speed level to get to that 4. makes kids look down on FCS, D2, D3, Juco football... we have kids who wouldnt start on an average JC team next year that think they are D1 bound D1bound literally promotes the idea that to be #D1Bound is an attitude and does not require one to be D1 Bound in any literal sense.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 8, 2017 23:59:13 GMT -6
I am not a fan of the D1bound clothing line/social media account simply because it is all BSĀ 1. the kids who buy it usually suck 2. the good players who really go D1 actually get it for free 3. D1 bound is not an attitude or anything you can work hard enough to achieve... it is hitting the genetic jackpot and then just not screwing it up after that ... no kid can work himself into being a D1 player... need a certain height/speed level to get to thatĀ 4. makes kids look down on FCS, D2, D3, Juco football... we have kids who wouldnt start on an average JC team next year that think they are D1 boundĀ D1bound literally promotes the idea that to be #D1Bound is an attitude and does not require one to be D1 Bound in any literal sense. What I call "false shepherds"
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Post by fantom on Feb 9, 2017 0:01:07 GMT -6
WTF is D1bound?
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 9, 2017 0:12:23 GMT -6
D1Bound is a clothing line that you wear to tell everyone that you are bound for division 1 football. Or that you spent enough money to give off the illusion.
There was a recruit of some note a few years back who would sign off everything with #D1Bound, even as he was (no joke) taking pictures on a visit at a D2 school. He went to six high schools in five years, every coach and teacher was out of step but Johnny. Flamed out at his first college stop through, I'm sure. No fault of his own, was booted off his JUCO team for generic stupidity, now at Podunk State though god only knows how his eligible.
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Post by huddlehut on Feb 9, 2017 7:31:37 GMT -6
The coach who posts photos on Facebook or Twitter of his players in the weight room "doing work." Like they're the only ones who ever lift weights. The term "doing work/putting in work" is my pet peeve.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 9, 2017 7:58:04 GMT -6
The recruiting process.
Long story short- I coach in a small state. Little traffic from big schools, and not nearly enough traffic from all schools. I have 2 D1 kids- one has 8 offers, the other has 1 offer (he is 2x player of the year mind you and a bonafide stud- best player I've ever coached FOR REAL.) I take these kids to camps/combines and they kick the {censored} out of kids from Texas/FL with 20-25 offers. Neither can be covered in the LB/RB drills, test well etc.
It baffles me how kids in these "football factory" states get the nod and I have to beg and plead for a 3-9 D1 team to even look at our kids...unreal
Makes me want to choke people
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Post by bdm on Feb 9, 2017 8:06:10 GMT -6
Anytime I hear a coach scream "Block somebody" and they have no clue what they are talking about This one and every time someone yells the o-line isn't blocking at all, never mind the fact they blitzed 6 guys the rb ran a flare the QB wasn't smart enough to check it down, its all the because the o-line didn't block. Used to work for a HC who every time a big play broke on defense would turn around a yell where are our LINEBACKERS which made it even funnier because he coached LB's.
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Post by bdm on Feb 9, 2017 8:07:54 GMT -6
I have a new one to add on to my list: 7.) Visors who oversell character, integrity, etc. glad that people are teaching values and such but some guys just overdo it. I hate listening to some visor wearing douche show a clip of their Fade RPO and talk about how their left tackle made a "5th level character play". WTF is a 5th level character play?
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 9, 2017 8:13:59 GMT -6
The recruiting process. Long story short- I coach in a small state. Little traffic from big schools, and not nearly enough traffic from all schools. I have 2 D1 kids- one has 8 offers, the other has 1 offer (he is 2x player of the year mind you and a bonafide stud- best player I've ever coached FOR REAL.) I take these kids to camps/combines and they kick the {censored} out of kids from Texas/FL with 20-25 offers. Neither can be covered in the LB/RB drills, test well etc. It baffles me how kids in these "football factory" states get the nod and I have to beg and plead for a 3-9 D1 team to even look at our kids...unreal Makes me want to choke people Recruiting is unfortunately not an efficient market. Coaches will always want to go back to the same well where they had success in the past, and most lack the technical skills to really go "big data." There's also a copycat effect where offers beget offers. It makes some sense; if Sabat offers a kid I might as well offer him and see if I get a nibble. I get frustrated at clinic talks that sound like a bit from "The World's Foremost Expert," (died yesterday at 102!). Cheap strength coaches can be the worst, they start mixing bad metaphors.
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 9, 2017 10:00:11 GMT -6
The coach who posts photos on Facebook or Twitter of his players in the weight room "doing work." Like they're the only ones who ever lift weights. The term "doing work/putting in work" is my pet peeve. I hate the term "Grinding" when referring to this usually the ones doing crossfit style workouts that may be hard, but not actually get kids stronger Grinding is not something i want to do to my body, bones, or joints Grinding is meant for Pretty Ricky-esque dancing in music videos
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 9, 2017 10:24:14 GMT -6
The coach who posts photos on Facebook or Twitter of his players in the weight room "doing work." Like they're the only ones who ever lift weights. The term "doing work/putting in work" is my pet peeve. I hate the term "Grinding" when referring to this usually the ones doing crossfit style workouts that may be hard, but not actually get kids stronger Grinding is not something i want to do to my body, bones, or joints Grinding is meant for Pretty Ricky-esque dancing in music videos Grinding is now just a fancy word for working hard. I would rather work hard than grind. Also people who "grind" always think they are outworking their opponent when in reality they are just taking 5 steps to do one thing and working harder not smarter.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Feb 9, 2017 10:47:34 GMT -6
Great thread topic. Can't believe I missed it last week.
7 on 7 clubs. There is a local 7-7 club that hand picks elite talent (kids that are going to UCLA, USC, etc) from the two counties my metro area encompasses. Their coach goes around gloating that he developed all of his players and he's the reason they're successful. Parents of lesser talented kids are ready to sign over a house payment to him because they believe he'll turn their kids into the next Southern California first round draft pick. There are several other clubs in the area whom are equally as deceitful.
I have one more thing that makes me rage but it's extremely uncommon. A guy I work with is a former assistant coach who coached a couple of local underachieving schools. He tells me at least once a week he'd love to coach again but the programs in the area aren't run the way programs should be run. He also tells me he deserves to be a defensive coordinator and he can shut down any offense with his defense. I know this isn't a common rager for most people but it is for me and my personal day to day life because I have to listen to him everyday.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 9, 2017 11:09:39 GMT -6
The coach who posts photos on Facebook or Twitter of his players in the weight room "doing work." Like they're the only ones who ever lift weights. The term "doing work/putting in work" is my pet peeve. Me too. You gotta grind.
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Post by silkyice on Feb 9, 2017 11:12:29 GMT -6
I hate the term "Grinding" when referring to this usually the ones doing crossfit style workouts that may be hard, but not actually get kids stronger Grinding is not something i want to do to my body, bones, or joints Grinding is meant for Pretty Ricky-esque dancing in music videos Grinding is now just a fancy word for working hard. I would rather work hard than grind. Also people who "grind" always think they are outworking their opponent when in reality they are just taking 5 steps to do one thing and working harder not smarter. Crap. Didn't see this grinding response before I posted.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 9, 2017 11:49:20 GMT -6
The coach who posts photos on Facebook or Twitter of his players in the weight room "doing work." Like they're the only ones who ever lift weights. The term "doing work/putting in work" is my pet peeve. I hate the term "Grinding" when referring to this usually the ones doing crossfit style workouts that may be hard, but not actually get kids stronger Grinding is not something i want to do to my body, bones, or joints Grinding is meant for Pretty Ricky-esque dancing in music videos What you forget is that Pretty-Ricky-grinding-Crossfit workouts are one of the cornerstones of an effective Facemelter off-season regimen. #grindpayz #nodaysoff #gainz
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 9, 2017 11:58:16 GMT -6
I hate the term "Grinding" when referring to this usually the ones doing crossfit style workouts that may be hard, but not actually get kids stronger Grinding is not something i want to do to my body, bones, or joints Grinding is meant for Pretty Ricky-esque dancing in music videos Grinding is now just a fancy word for working hard. I would rather work hard than grind. Also people who "grind" always think they are outworking their opponent when in reality they are just taking 5 steps to do one thing and working harder not smarter. on top of a bosu ball, on one leg, and resistance bands, while someone punches them in the stomach while simultaneously using an agility ladder (suspended above hurdles)
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 9, 2017 11:59:13 GMT -6
Great thread topic. Can't believe I missed it last week. 7 on 7 clubs. There is a local 7-7 club that hand picks elite talent (kids that are going to UCLA, USC, etc) from the two counties my metro area encompasses. Their coach goes around gloating that he developed all of his players and he's the reason they're successful. Parents of lesser talented kids are ready to sign over a house payment to him because they believe he'll turn their kids into the next Southern California first round draft pick. There are several other clubs in the area whom are equally as deceitful. I have one more thing that makes me rage but it's extremely uncommon. A guy I work with is a former assistant coach who coached a couple of local underachieving schools. He tells me at least once a week he'd love to coach again but the programs in the area aren't run the way programs should be run. He also tells me he deserves to be a defensive coordinator and he can shut down any offense with his defense. I know this isn't a common rager for most people but it is for me and my personal day to day life because I have to listen to him everyday. Coaches in my area, who have regaled me for years about their success before I get to the area...playoff appearances, wins, players, etc... I find out as the years go on that none of the things really happened meanwhile, I'm constantly lectured on how to do things, how to run things, how I could be more successful if I did thing "this" way, etc... I smile and say thank you
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Post by coacht on Feb 9, 2017 11:59:38 GMT -6
I'm bored and thought this would be interesting. What trends in our game make you rage and why? Mine is coaches that win titles all talking about winning with lesser talent. We all have lesser talent. I have never once heard a coach say "man, we are loaded this year." If they do, you probably better look the phuc out. A coach here in MO that set the record for most state titles consecutively won (6) admitted at a clinic yesterday the reason he has won so many titles is that he has been lucky/blessed to have great players the last 6 years. Some guys in there were pissed because they thought he was holding back some secret he wouldn't tell everybody. He wasn't lying, he's been blessed to have a few D1/D2 kids that were just flat out better than his competition. They literally only run a 4-3 over cover 0 on defense, and DTDW and Power I on offense. One of the few times I've heard a coach admit they won because of players/talent and not scheme. That coach is on here somewhere. Doesn't post very often but I know he's a member.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 9, 2017 12:03:47 GMT -6
Grinding is now just a fancy word for working hard. I would rather work hard than grind. Also people who "grind" always think they are outworking their opponent when in reality they are just taking 5 steps to do one thing and working harder not smarter. on top of a bosu ball, on one leg, and resistance bands, while someone punches them in the stomach while simultaneously using an agility ladder (suspended above hurdles) ok, no lie...6 months ago, buddy was training for crossfit competition. The WOD was 1-legged box jumps with a weighted barbell on his back. 2nd rep in, my buddy doesnt make it up, falls...3 bruised ribs, torn labrum, gash on leg requiring 17 stiches.
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Post by wiscohscoach on Feb 9, 2017 12:09:38 GMT -6
People non stop talking about culture. It's important no doubt, but holy hell it has been beaten to death.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 9, 2017 12:56:10 GMT -6
Great thread topic. Can't believe I missed it last week. 7 on 7 clubs. There is a local 7-7 club that hand picks elite talent (kids that are going to UCLA, USC, etc) from the two counties my metro area encompasses. Their coach goes around gloating that he developed all of his players and he's the reason they're successful. Parents of lesser talented kids are ready to sign over a house payment to him because they believe he'll turn their kids into the next Southern California first round draft pick. There are several other clubs in the area whom are equally as deceitful. I have one more thing that makes me rage but it's extremely uncommon. A guy I work with is a former assistant coach who coached a couple of local underachieving schools. He tells me at least once a week he'd love to coach again but the programs in the area aren't run the way programs should be run. He also tells me he deserves to be a defensive coordinator and he can shut down any offense with his defense. I know this isn't a common rager for most people but it is for me and my personal day to day life because I have to listen to him everyday. I can't stand guys like that! Lots of expert pop warner coaches in my area. Not bashing on pop warner coaches, but the ones I come across are a bit nuts. Next time that guy talks like that, ask him why he doesn't take over a program and run it the right way. Ask him how he would defend a wing-t one week, a fly offense the next, a pro-style the next, and a spread RPO offense the next. What are his thoughts on hawk tackling and how the head is being taken out of the game. Whenever I ask these types of questions, I get blank stares and never see or hear from those guys ever again. Do that and I bet he stays away from you at work. But rest assured, he'll still tell everyone that you don't know jack.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Feb 9, 2017 12:57:13 GMT -6
#grind #nodaysoff #blessed #squad
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Post by funkfriss on Feb 9, 2017 13:27:54 GMT -6
5. This may be petty but it irritates me...Preferred Walk Ons having signings. It bothers me. The local paper yesterday had a girl signing to continue her athletic career as a JUCO bowler. I wish I was making this up...
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Post by dblwngr on Feb 9, 2017 13:47:03 GMT -6
Can't forget about go o'l coach "Name Dropper"
Guy goes to a couple clinics then he's suddenly good pals with every teams staff. They even give him a VIP card, secret handshake, facemelter playbook, and cutting edge drills anytime he throws up a bat signal in the sky. Amazing how people can have so many resources and deep friendships with so many coaches over their two years of coaching at the high school level.
I once stood around the keg at a coaches clinic with a D1 HC but all I got was a beer with more foam that beer and a look of unworthiness when one of our staff mentioned were a double wing team......
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 9, 2017 14:30:13 GMT -6
#grind #nodaysoff #blessed #squad
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Post by jrk5150 on Feb 9, 2017 15:21:33 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't know wtf that was all about with Belichick. Maybe he was drunk? Or mocking everyone who was there...and not at work?
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