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Post by fantom on Feb 13, 2017 11:15:03 GMT -6
We had a guy like that. Called him "Game Day" would only show up on Fridays, want to have input in everything and always asked for coaching gear ahead of everybody else. We tried to leave him at school one day but he showed up early. He ended up quitting in the middle of a game because we were trying to coach up his position group since he was never there and didn't know our game plan. We don't have a coach like that but we have something worse, alumni on the sideline. When I took over the program which has a tradition of allowing a bunch of al bundys showing off their letterman jackets from 1992, I spoke to the ad about how I wanted a strict sideline. He said he supported me but warned that it would not be a popular community/public relations move to kick a bunch of people off the field who have been on the sideline for years. I completely understood and bit the bullet. We started off 0-4 and the al bundys and uncle ricos would yell at our kids and even try and coach them up. They're not the reason we were 0-4 but their presence was doing much more harm than good. The next week I spoke with the ad again, and he supported me and locked down the sideline. We lost again, going 0-5 but they (alumni) wanted me fired because I was unwelcoming to the tradition. We went onto win the next 7 games and lose in the semifinals of playoffs but that didn't seem to matter to those guys who felt slighted by me. My soph year we had a dad come into the locker room at halftime and rip us. We were getting crushed and he spent the whole halftime calling us gutless and telling us that we weren't showing any pride. Don't remember the coach saying anything at all. He was probably just happy that the guy wasn't yelling at him. Boy, was that motivating!
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Post by dytmook on Feb 13, 2017 16:36:19 GMT -6
We had a guy like that. Called him "Game Day" would only show up on Fridays, want to have input in everything and always asked for coaching gear ahead of everybody else. We tried to leave him at school one day but he showed up early. He ended up quitting in the middle of a game because we were trying to coach up his position group since he was never there and didn't know our game plan. We don't have a coach like that but we have something worse, alumni on the sideline. When I took over the program which has a tradition of allowing a bunch of al bundys showing off their letterman jackets from 1992, I spoke to the ad about how I wanted a strict sideline. He said he supported me but warned that it would not be a popular community/public relations move to kick a bunch of people off the field who have been on the sideline for years. I completely understood and bit the bullet. We started off 0-4 and the al bundys and uncle ricos would yell at our kids and even try and coach them up. They're not the reason we were 0-4 but their presence was doing much more harm than good. The next week I spoke with the ad again, and he supported me and locked down the sideline. We lost again, going 0-5 but they (alumni) wanted me fired because I was unwelcoming to the tradition. We went onto win the next 7 games and lose in the semifinals of playoffs but that didn't seem to matter to those guys who felt slighted by me. One of our bus drivers is like that. Gets in the way, makes sure to try to get in the food line first, and takes left overs like he's going to feed on it for a weeks. Coaching from the stands is really issue with our parents. Couple of them were decent players but when you hear them talk you just want to put a bubble them in the stadium
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Post by s73 on Feb 13, 2017 16:58:15 GMT -6
This is a funny story. Did not happen to me but kinda wish it did. Happened to a buddy of mine who coaches basketball.
He was coaching a tight game and I don't even recall the outcome but it was close. No parents bothering him during the game, all was well, etc.
So he gets home and he sees several voicemails on his answering machine & he clicks to retrieve the messages. Well...it's the dad of one of his players who is on his cell phone leaving a message DURING THE GAME. He said it went until the tape cut him off and then he called back several times.
He was giving a play by play summary of what my buddy was doing wrong during the game. "Coach it's the 3rd quarter and you are not pressing enough. Also, I just watched you run the inbound play with 3:43 left in the quarter & you should;ve done _________". "Not sure I would have gone man to man on #3, he was to athletic for you guys". I just watched you call a time out, why didn't you take ity after their last basket?"
My buddy was so pi$$ed. he was even more pi$$ed when he told me & I started laughing. he said it went on for ever.
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Post by bigmoot on Feb 13, 2017 18:18:24 GMT -6
Dytmook hit a sore spot...
Coaches who get in the food line before the players. I hate this. I had a couple that would jump in the post game line like they were starving. They looked at me like I was crazy when I told them to wait. They actually said "what if there's not enough." I thought they would stroke out when I told them that coaches would do without if there was a shortage. They didn't last long.
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Post by rosey65 on Feb 14, 2017 6:44:46 GMT -6
This is a funny story. Did not happen to me but kinda wish it did. Happened to a buddy of mine who coaches basketball. He was coaching a tight game and I don't even recall the outcome but it was close. No parents bothering him during the game, all was well, etc. So he gets home and he sees several voicemails on his answering machine & he clicks to retrieve the messages. Well...it's the dad of one of his players who is on his cell phone leaving a message DURING THE GAME. He said it went until the tape cut him off and then he called back several times. He was giving a play by play summary of what my buddy was doing wrong during the game. "Coach it's the 3rd quarter and you are not pressing enough. Also, I just watched you run the inbound play with 3:43 left in the quarter & you should;ve done _________". "Not sure I would have gone man to man on #3, he was to athletic for you guys". I just watched you call a time out, why didn't you take ity after their last basket?" My buddy was so pi$$ed. he was even more pi$$ed when he told me & I started laughing. he said it went on for ever. Our HC doesnt carry his cell phone during games or practice...spouts something about "professionalism" or some other nonsense...probably just because he cant make sweet memes of the scoreboard, or take selfies with the team after wins, like he expects us assistants to do....anyway, I digress.. We get back into the office after a game, he pulls out his cell phone, and he has a massive string of text messages from a parent..."put David in the game...why is David not playing? my son needs to be in...you are ruining my night..." crap like that. There were probably 50 messages from this mom. And David? He was one of several JV kid we brought up to varsity after the JV season ended. He had the time of his life on the sideline that night, had no idea his mom had sent those. Also, we had 2 drunk families get into a fist fight during a game...we were up 28-0 in the 2nd quarter, going in to score, when the game had to be paused til the cops and admin got the fight stopped. No one knows what the fight was about.
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Post by fantom on Feb 14, 2017 10:02:12 GMT -6
Our HC doesnt carry his cell phone during games or practice...spouts something about "professionalism" or some other nonsense...probably just because he cant make sweet memes of the scoreboard, or take selfies with the team after wins, like he expects us assistants to do....anyway, I digress.. We get back into the office after a game, he pulls out his cell phone, and he has a massive string of text messages from a parent..."put David in the game...why is David not playing? my son needs to be in...you are ruining my night..." crap like that. There were probably 50 messages from this mom. And David? He was one of several JV kid we brought up to varsity after the JV season ended. He had the time of his life on the sideline that night, had no idea his mom had sent those. Now you know why he doesn't carry his phone to games.
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Post by olcoach53 on Feb 14, 2017 10:22:44 GMT -6
This is a funny story. Did not happen to me but kinda wish it did. Happened to a buddy of mine who coaches basketball. He was coaching a tight game and I don't even recall the outcome but it was close. No parents bothering him during the game, all was well, etc. So he gets home and he sees several voicemails on his answering machine & he clicks to retrieve the messages. Well...it's the dad of one of his players who is on his cell phone leaving a message DURING THE GAME. He said it went until the tape cut him off and then he called back several times. He was giving a play by play summary of what my buddy was doing wrong during the game. "Coach it's the 3rd quarter and you are not pressing enough. Also, I just watched you run the inbound play with 3:43 left in the quarter & you should;ve done _________". "Not sure I would have gone man to man on #3, he was to athletic for you guys". I just watched you call a time out, why didn't you take ity after their last basket?" My buddy was so pi$$ed. he was even more pi$$ed when he told me & I started laughing. he said it went on for ever. Our HC doesnt carry his cell phone during games or practice...spouts something about "professionalism" or some other nonsense...probably just because he cant make sweet memes of the scoreboard, or take selfies with the team after wins, like he expects us assistants to do....anyway, I digress..We get back into the office after a game, he pulls out his cell phone, and he has a massive string of text messages from a parent..."put David in the game...why is David not playing? my son needs to be in...you are ruining my night..." crap like that. There were probably 50 messages from this mom. And David? He was one of several JV kid we brought up to varsity after the JV season ended. He had the time of his life on the sideline that night, had no idea his mom had sent those. Also, we had 2 drunk families get into a fist fight during a game...we were up 28-0 in the 2nd quarter, going in to score, when the game had to be paused til the cops and admin got the fight stopped. No one knows what the fight was about. I know this was tongue in cheek but I have unfortunately seen it. Coaches taking selfies during time outs of the game, taking pictures DURING the game. Same coaches who get in trouble TWICE for eating on the sidelines. Makes me sick to my stomach sometimes that there are jamokes like this in our profession.
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Post by SconnieOC on Feb 14, 2017 10:33:32 GMT -6
I've got a good parent one.. This happened to my buddy who is D3 coach. They had 12 or 13 recruits at a game for a gameday visit and most of them were sitting together. Well one of their senior OL got a personal foul on a grossly late hit, unsportsmanlike called, my buddy pulled him out and chewed him (it was 3rd and 28 after the penalty and like 13 seconds left in the half so generally no effect. They ran on 3rd down and the clock ran out) but this kids father went bonkers. He went over to all the recruits and told them they shouldn't come to school there because the coaches were a joke, and they had no idea how to run a program. (the HC has the most wins in conference history btw). Apparently it went on for a couple minutes.. safe to say they didn't get any of those guys.
Parents make me rage.
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Post by coachluey on Feb 14, 2017 15:22:34 GMT -6
Once had an absolutely horrid JH season when I first started coaching. Offense couldnt move the ball, defense couldnt stop anyone and there was only one kid on the team who could even hold on to the ball when we ran it. Well as the season went on and on and on (as those seasons do) we got better, found a few more kids, started to score some but not enough.
One parent couldnt see the forest through the trees and you could always here him on the sidelines spouting "who da head coa, who da man?" Well me (I was OC) and the HC would hear him but wouldnt respond. Finally, one game we were in it, I mean these kids were playing lights out but we ended up losing in a heart breaker. The HC gets within earshot of the dude and here it comes "who da head coa, dat you?" response "yea thats me" "Man Yall need to put in more work, flip the line, somethin." He lost it "You need to get a degree, pass your cert test, then you can come coach the talent we have"
I was glad he took care of it but maybe pick some better words lol.
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Post by fantom on Feb 14, 2017 19:10:28 GMT -6
I just got reminded of something that makes me rage- parents who don't pick up their kids until an hour after practice ends.
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Post by dbcoach19 on Feb 14, 2017 20:18:11 GMT -6
I just got reminded of something that makes me rage- parents who don't pick up their kids until an hour after practice ends. That is the worst. We've had a few parents in the past refuse to leave their house until their kid got back to the school after away games. Got to the point where we would tell the individual kids to call their parents when we were about 30 minutes away and the parents would tell them "call when you get to the school."
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 15, 2017 9:06:50 GMT -6
I just got reminded of something that makes me rage- parents who don't pick up their kids until an hour after practice ends. Much bigger issue for me coaching middle school basketball--obviously--but YES!!!! We end practice every day at 5:00. Once we "ran over" to about 5:03 this last season. And, it never failed that one kid--not always the same, but usual suspects--never had rides until 5:45. Parents are also given leave and arrival times for our games that are remarkably accurate. We are always within 15 minutes of the arrival time when we come home from away games...and same thing. I have waited as long as an hour before.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 15, 2017 9:35:01 GMT -6
I just got reminded of something that makes me rage- parents who don't pick up their kids until an hour after practice ends. Much bigger issue for me coaching middle school basketball--obviously--but YES!!!! We end practice every day at 5:00. Once we "ran over" to about 5:03 this last season. And, it never failed that one kid--not always the same, but usual suspects--never had rides until 5:45. Parents are also given leave and arrival times for our games that are remarkably accurate. We are always within 15 minutes of the arrival time when we come home from away games...and same thing. I have waited as long as an hour before. my HC is great about this. If it is a consistent thing, then he makes the kid's parent come in and meet about it. If they don't the kids is suspended until then
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Post by silkyice on Feb 15, 2017 10:22:16 GMT -6
I just got reminded of something that makes me rage- parents who don't pick up their kids until an hour after practice ends. Much bigger issue for me coaching middle school basketball--obviously--but YES!!!! We end practice every day at 5:00. Once we "ran over" to about 5:03 this last season. And, it never failed that one kid--not always the same, but usual suspects--never had rides until 5:45. Parents are also given leave and arrival times for our games that are remarkably accurate. We are always within 15 minutes of the arrival time when we come home from away games...and same thing. I have waited as long as an hour before. I understand the issue and I have had to deal with it. But, getting ALL kids picked up at 5:00 does seem like that could be tough on working families. I know that they can make other arrangements - carpools,etc. My main question is if practice ends at 5:00, I almost am never gone until 6. Just too much to do. Here is an idea that might can help. Feel free to use it or flush it. Have a "coach of the day". If your day is Tuesday, that means that you make sure that the players do all the duties on Tuesday. Outdoor cleanup, indoor cleanup, washing, whatever. You also are expected to stay late that day and lock up and make sure everyone is picked up. If you have a staff of four - one has each day of practice. Depending on staff size, someone might have to double up or rotate or even just go every other week. But at least someone is assigned and it doesn't fall on the same person every single day.
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Post by fantom on Feb 15, 2017 10:30:47 GMT -6
Much bigger issue for me coaching middle school basketball--obviously--but YES!!!! We end practice every day at 5:00. Once we "ran over" to about 5:03 this last season. And, it never failed that one kid--not always the same, but usual suspects--never had rides until 5:45. Parents are also given leave and arrival times for our games that are remarkably accurate. We are always within 15 minutes of the arrival time when we come home from away games...and same thing. I have waited as long as an hour before. I understand the issue and I have had to deal with it. But, getting ALL kids picked up at 5:00 does seem like that could be tough on working families. I know that they can make other arrangements - carpools,etc. My main question is if practice ends at 5:00, I almost am never gone until 6. Just too much to do. Here is an idea that might can help. Feel free to use it or flush it. Have a "coach of the day". If your day is Tuesday, that means that you make sure all duties are done on Tuesday. Outdoor cleanup, indoor cleanup, washing, whatever. You also are expected to stay late that day and lock up and make sure everyone is picked up. If you have a staff of four - one has each day of practice. Depending on staff size, someone might have to double up or rotate or even just go every other week. But at least someone is assigned and it doesn't fall on the same person every single day. We do that. That's how I happened to be reminded of the problem yesterday. We finished our workout no later than 4:45 and we had a kid whose mom didn't get there until after 6. In-season, it's not as big of a deal because there are things to do. In the offseason, though....
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 15, 2017 10:40:39 GMT -6
We take turns--since it's basketball just me and one other coach. By rule, we alternate who stays if a kid is late getting picked up..but there will be days where I offer to take his turn as he is married and has two kids whereas I only have a couple of cats at home!
I also understand the point on working families. It doesn't bother me if not every single ride is there by five; however, if gets much past 5:15 or 5:20, I start to get annoyed. It was worse with the group from this past season. I'm not sure how he was made aware of the problem, but our principal called home and talked the a few parents about this with no prompting from me.
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 10:54:29 GMT -6
To be honest, other coaches throw me into a rage quicker than anything else. "You really need athletes to run _____ offense". "We just don't have the guys to run the ball!" "We're not good enough to throw the ball!" "The Wing-T/SBV/Flexbone/DW (etc..) doesn't work anymore. You need to spread people out." "We don't have enough DL to run the 4-3!!" "We don't have enough LBs to run the 3-4!!" The wondrous age of technology has produced an entire generation of coaches that are Xs and Os gurus but have no idea how to teach the kids to play the game. Guys don't spend time looking up good drills or trying to understand the fundamentals of the game. They scour the internet for playbooks... I am running into more and more coaches that are completely belligerent when I try to teach them how to teach our offensive and defensive schemes.. The "We don't have enough to run..." or "this won't work." I've seen quite a few coaches who refuse to learn anything new and only believe certain things will work, rather than listening to others or looking at how something can benefit the team. As an excuse for not learning or not wanting to adapt, I agree. However, sometimes you don't a guy who throws well or receivers who can run and catch--and if you say "we're not good enough to throw the ball" and adapt your offense to what you CAN do, then I don't see the problem. The last 2 years at my previous school we did not have a QB who could throw. To attempt to sling it around would have been suicide. This year--new school, different players--we will throw the bejesus out of it
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 10:57:34 GMT -6
For me personally, it's when anybody-parents, other coaches, whoever talk down to me because I coach middle school ball and act like I don't know my ace from my elbow because if I did "I wouldn't be coaching middle school ball". The same idea is behind high schools who want to hire "college coaches" or "NFL players" and think they're latching on to to god's gift to football instead of going with a good high school coach who understands the high school game. BTW, I had the opportunity to hear a high school coach who seemed to believe he was god's gift to football this past weekend at a clinic. There's an hour of my life I can't get back.
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 10:59:11 GMT -6
I feel your pain. I currently have a kid who is a master with our jet option stuff, he literally averages 280 yards per game rushing the ball. I get that stuff too.....why do you run the same play???etc. I have to bit my tongue with these fans - if it aint broke, don't fix it right? We had a game this year where we only ran 2/3 Veer the entire game and destroyed our opponent. I had a couple dads tell me that we should have thrown the ball. That's why they have to pay to get in to the stadium and you don't.
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 11:02:38 GMT -6
I have a new one to add on to my list: 7.) Visors who oversell character, integrity, etc. glad that people are teaching values and such but some guys just overdo it. I hate listening to some visor wearing douche show a clip of their Fade RPO and talk about how their left tackle made a "5th level character play". WTH is a "5th level character play"? Did he fall on a grenade or something?
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 11:11:44 GMT -6
We coach our guys not to waste a timeout on punt team. Our protector counts to make sure we have 11 guys before calling the cadence, we tell him that if we are short just don't call it and we'll try to run somebody on in time but if we run out of time we'll just take the 5 yard penalty. Of course one time about 7 or 8 years ago our protector didn't go out there when we called punt team. Never got a real clear answer on who actually called the cadence or how the ball got snapped, but it did and of course the punt was blocked. That made me rage. Which reminds me of one of the main things that makes me rage: Personnel mistakes in the kicking game. What makes me rage most about that is when it's due to an injury and the coach in charge of replacing the injured player (or is in charge of notifying the coach who is in charge of the replacement) is too busy being a spectator to do his job. Usually, that person has ONE job.
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 11:32:42 GMT -6
I just got reminded of something that makes me rage- parents who don't pick up their kids until an hour after practice ends. Yes, yes, yes! Or even longer than that...
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Post by newhope on Feb 15, 2017 11:35:13 GMT -6
We take turns--since it's basketball just me and one other coach. By rule, we alternate who stays if a kid is late getting picked up..but there will be days where I offer to take his turn as he is married and has two kids whereas I only have a couple of cats at home! I also understand the point on working families. It doesn't bother me if not every single ride is there by five; however, if gets much past 5:15 or 5:20, I start to get annoyed. It was worse with the group from this past season. I'm not sure how he was made aware of the problem, but our principal called home and talked the a few parents about this with no prompting from me. I set up a rotation schedule among all coaches. Everyone takes a turn.
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Post by jrk5150 on Feb 15, 2017 15:01:09 GMT -6
Yeah - not fun as a youth coach either. Practice over at 8 pm, haven't been home since 6:30 am, tired, hungry, and an 11 year old with no ride. Ugh.
Once upon a time, you threw him in your car and drove him home. Not now, not without someone else in the car.
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Post by bleefb on Feb 15, 2017 17:07:09 GMT -6
Sometimes its just neglectful parenting. We used to travel a lot when I coached at a rural school. We get back around midnight and as we're getting ready to go home, one of our kids is sitting on the steps in the dark. I asked if his ride was coming and he just shrugged his shoulders. I took him home and when he went in the house Dad was sitting on the couch watching TV. SMH
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Post by 50slantstrong on Feb 17, 2017 10:48:49 GMT -6
Waiting all month to watch a webinar/e-clinic on a topic you wanted to learn more about, only to watch the speaker spend the first 30 minutes talking about his program's accomplishments, program's philosophy, and how competitive the game is where he coaches. Then he spends the last 30 minutes going over bare base stuff you already know about.
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Post by nicku on Feb 17, 2017 15:34:40 GMT -6
Or when somebody is missing on punt team. OK, I wouldn't say that it makes me rage. This isn't a stupid mistake but I do think that it's a mistake. Take the delay. Who cares? You're giving the ball away anyway.
...or Extra Point.
Time outs are like gold, drives me crazy when coaches give them away because they aren't prepared or organized.
For some reason, I have always felt like I'm the only person that gets irritated when coaches call timeouts for stupid reasons like you are listing. Glad to see some people agree. "1st quarter...1st and 10...play clock running down...TIMEOUT!!!" Drives me up a wall. You really have such little faith in your offense that you don't think they have any chance of getting that 5 yards back? "Can't take the timeouts with you into the locker room!" Sure, but using them haphazardly really isn't any better than not calling them at all. Would rather use 'em on defense at the end of the half just to MAYBE have a chance at running a punt back for points...or something along those lines. I'm a K-State grad/fan, and that's maybe my only legit gripe about His Holiness William Snyder...usually have the 3rd timeout called by the 8min mark of the 2nd quarter.
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Post by ndcoach on Feb 24, 2017 0:53:42 GMT -6
When a team has the QB has run over to the sideline between every snap to get the next play. I am sure there are many on here that do it and they have their reasons for it and it works for them, but that irritates me beyond belief.
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Post by s73 on Feb 24, 2017 7:47:36 GMT -6
When a team has the QB has run over to the sideline between every snap to get the next play. I am sure there are many on here that do it and they have their reasons for it and it works for them, but that irritates me beyond belief. Why does that irritate you? What's the big deal? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand why how the other team chooses to implement their play calling effects you? For the record, I do this. Not offended just trying to understand why it offends you. Seems odd to me.
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Post by blb on Feb 24, 2017 7:56:40 GMT -6
When a team has the QB has run over to the sideline between every snap to get the next play. I am sure there are many on here that do it and they have their reasons for it and it works for them, but that irritates me beyond belief. Why does that irritate you? What's the big deal? Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand why how the other team chooses to implement their play calling effects you? For the record, I do this. Not offended just trying to understand why it offends you. Seems odd to me.
I figured those coaches were former linemen who hate QBs, make them run 30-40 yard sprints back and forth all game.
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