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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 11, 2017 7:25:37 GMT -6
I was listening to the WR coach from Tennessee in a clinic talk (if you ever get to listen to him, do it, he's awesome) and he came talked about player rewards for his group.
He gives out little green army men for busting tail in practice, a tank if a WR pancakes a DB, and a fighter jet if a WR scores.
We already know about bottles of syrup for pancakes on the OL. We also know some coaches like to slurp that syrup out of belly buttons.
Anybody else doing anything cool or unique?
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 11, 2017 11:08:51 GMT -6
I have candy bars to the scout O players of the week, one OL and one Rec.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 12, 2017 11:07:21 GMT -6
Remember when playing time and winning games was enough to motivate guys to practice hard/lift hard/play hard?
I miss that...
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Post by Defcord on Feb 12, 2017 11:25:03 GMT -6
We did bricks painted in school colors for weekly awards and put the award name on front, kids name on top, game opponent/week #, date on one of the sides. The kid had to put a personal characteristic on the back that he felt makes special and helped him win the award. We presented them Monday at film. They presented the characteristics in Thursday at team meal.
We talked weekly about building a strong foundation for the program and building champions of life so the bricks pretty well to reinforce that concept.
The bricks are .38$ at lowes. A couple cans of spray paint is next to nothing.
Kids loved it. The Awards were all based on around the characteristics we established as a team that we felt necessary to accomplish our goals.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 12, 2017 12:07:15 GMT -6
Remember when playing time and winning games was enough to motivate guys to practice hard/lift hard/play hard? I miss that... Times have changed and millenials are different. Why work hard when I can kick my buddy's ass in Madden and be just as happy?
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 12, 2017 12:40:58 GMT -6
I doubt it was ever enough to motivate most people. That's a very long-term and abstract reward. Especially if I know that no matter how much I do or don't lift won't affect my playing time.
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 12, 2017 12:44:24 GMT -6
I doubt it was ever enough to motivate most people. That's a very long-term and abstract reward. Especially if I know that no matter how much I do or don't lift won't affect my playing time. So minus reports of CTE at the youth/HS levels of football and the increase extrinsic motivation compared to years past why is participation in youth and high school football decreasing? It seems as though reward systems would pump participation numbers up!
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Post by gccwolverine on Feb 12, 2017 13:29:43 GMT -6
I doubt it was ever enough to motivate most people. That's a very long-term and abstract reward. Especially if I know that no matter how much I do or don't lift won't affect my playing time. So minus reports of CTE at the youth/HS levels of football and the increase extrinsic motivation compared to years past why is participation in youth and high school football decreasing? It seems as though reward systems would pump participation numbers up! Because football is hard. People don't love doing hard things.
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 12, 2017 13:44:44 GMT -6
Boxing was hugely popular at one point. So was horse racing. Things come and go.
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 13, 2017 6:59:57 GMT -6
I doubt it was ever enough to motivate most people. That's a very long-term and abstract reward. Especially if I know that no matter how much I do or don't lift won't affect my playing time. So minus reports of CTE at the youth/HS levels of football and the increase extrinsic motivation compared to years past why is participation in youth and high school football decreasing? It seems as though reward systems would pump participation numbers up! So do nothing? ive never seen the flaw in giving things out to kids, I want to teach kids to value hard work and some may never get on the field so I get shirts for those that commit. If I work hard at my job but am not seen as good enough to go to the pros or become a trustee I still get paid in my role, I like that reward. There are a lot of factors but our numbers have risen, may level off soon but kids wear those earned/reward shirts with pride...that's good enough for me.
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Post by ahall005 on Feb 13, 2017 21:13:23 GMT -6
We do chocolate milk, PB & j, and freezer pops after practices and lifts.
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Post by jbutch17 on Feb 14, 2017 7:02:58 GMT -6
So minus reports of CTE at the youth/HS levels of football and the increase extrinsic motivation compared to years past why is participation in youth and high school football decreasing? It seems as though reward systems would pump participation numbers up! So do nothing? ive never seen the flaw in giving things out to kids, I want to teach kids to value hard work and some may never get on the field so I get shirts for those that commit. If I work hard at my job but am not seen as good enough to go to the pros or become a trustee I still get paid in my role, I like that reward. There are a lot of factors but our numbers have risen, may level off soon but kids wear those earned/reward shirts with pride...that's good enough for me. Right now, I slip over to the gas station and buy any scout teamer who causes a turnover a Gatorade at the break. It is fun and more than anything, I think that it strengthens the coach-player bond
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Post by coachks on Feb 14, 2017 9:04:03 GMT -6
I doubt it was ever enough to motivate most people. That's a very long-term and abstract reward. Especially if I know that no matter how much I do or don't lift won't affect my playing time. So minus reports of CTE at the youth/HS levels of football and the increase extrinsic motivation compared to years past why is participation in youth and high school football decreasing? It seems as though reward systems would pump participation numbers up! Firstly, what time frame are we comparing? 50 years ago? 20? 10? Different answers and different results. Some combination of: 1) Increased competition from other sports (Soccer, LaCrosse, Year Round BBall / Baseball) 2) Decrease support in local communities - 3) Fewer coaches in schools to build relationships and recruit players. Easy to quit if you never see coach. 4) Fewer 2 parent households - less pressure from "dad" to play football. Tougher to get rides to and from practice. 5) Increase demand on athletes - Year-Long weights, full summer schedule. Football isn't Aug 1 - Halloween anymore. 6) Poor coaching at the Youth / Middle School level (See point 2 and 3). There are many schools (typically local powers) who have great participation numbers and no drop off. You have other schools with 1,000+ students who can barely field teams.
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Post by mrjvi on Feb 14, 2017 9:13:20 GMT -6
I also use chocolate milk. After weights on Mondays, at the start of film, I give out chocolate milk to those who deserve it from the game. Some get the regular stuff from the grocery store and some get the premium stuff from the local creamery. 1 game everyone got some but usually only a handful. Scout player (s) of the week go out for the coin toss. Shirts and nameplates are used for making the right number of off season workouts or with hitting certain strength standards. My biggest change over the years is that if the kid works out somewhere else but still hits strength standards, I'm OK with that. I used to not be.
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 14, 2017 9:20:09 GMT -6
We have special teams players eat first at team dinners...
We let kids select jersey numbers and equipment each year based on a point system that they earn for grades, offseason, playing other sports, etc...
All the stuff you have to do anyway, but building a reward system into it so that if a kid really really likes his jersey number, he's gonna do what it takes to select jersey number first.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Feb 14, 2017 10:13:32 GMT -6
Remember when playing time and winning games was enough to motivate guys to practice hard/lift hard/play hard? I miss that... It still is in many cases. But there's something about being able to display your hard work that solidifies the impact of your actions. We use many different avenues to promote good habits. We do: -performance tees for kids with 90+% attendance to weight room -Weekly hammer award for best OL gradeout -WWE belt for daily performance (we usually give it to someone who is selfless/team-first, practices hard, enthusiastic etc. That person keeps the belt for 24hrs on weekdays, they keep it for the weekend after games. New kid everyday- we also award it to coaches/staff sometimes as well. ***THIS IS OUR BIGGEST REWARD- MOST PRESTIGIOUS*** -Defensive Plays of the Game shirts - we have custom-made tees each week awarded to defenders who make big plays in the game. The recipients may not have made a tackle or interception, but they may have wrong-armed the chit out of a power and "made the play without MAKING the play" (it's a stupid phrase I use all the time but the kids understand it). Often awarded to role players who go unnoticed. We put the defensive call (in symbols) and what he did i.e. "wrong arm" or "immovable object" if he destroyed a double team on a key play. THE KIDS LOVE THESE. I would say that our use of positive awards helps balance the harsh consequences for negative behavior. Examples: -if a kid's body language just sucks...lack of energy, focus, pouting etc...we will absolutely berate him. But a kid that shows positive behavior, clapping it up/motivating all practice long, then that kid may get the belt for the day. -if a kid comes to the weight room religiously then they earn one of the shirts; if a kid doesn't come at all he gets berated by me and status on the team may be in question. I think the reward systems have allowed us to promote the behavior we want AND make the harsh consequences we inflict more acceptable. The kids don't see us as "out to get people" or "trying to make him quit," our actions are seen as us holding them accountable to our program standards. We definitely walk a fine line...
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Post by eaglemountie on Feb 14, 2017 10:25:33 GMT -6
Good discussion guys, thanks...
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Post by coachcb on Feb 14, 2017 10:27:27 GMT -6
We only use helmet stickers as a reward. They take great pride in having a helmet covered in skull-n-bone stickers by the end of the year. But, they don't get stickers for every little thing they do right.
OL: pancake blocks, blocks at the POA that result in a twenty yard+ gain (rushing only), outstanding effort (example:they take someone off the ball by ten yards.
WRs: pancake blocks, blocks at the POA that result in a big gain, outstanding effort, big rushes (10+ yards), big catches (20 yards+) or catches that get 10+ yards after the catch.
RBs: pancake blocks, blocks at the POA that result in a big gain, outstanding effort, big rushes (10+ yards), big catches (20 yards+) or catches that get 10+ yards after the catch.
QBs:pancake blocks, blocks at the POA that result in a big gain, outstanding effort, big rushes (10+ yards), big throws (20 yards+).
DBs: INTs, fumble recoveries, big hits, tackles for a loss, outstanding effort.
LBs: INTs, fumble recoveries, big hits, tackles for a loss, outstanding effort.
DL: INTs, fumble recoveries, big hits, tackles for a loss, outstanding effort.
Any "loaf" cancels out a sticker.
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