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Post by harris90 on Nov 26, 2017 17:46:34 GMT -6
Does anyone have their school pay a stipend for an 8th grade coach? The team would still play in there current league but the coach would line up with the goals of the high school and their systems.
How would you present this to your administration?
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Post by agap on Nov 26, 2017 19:40:31 GMT -6
Every 8th grade coach I know gets paid by the school.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 26, 2017 20:16:35 GMT -6
Does anyone have their school pay a stipend for an 8th grade coach? The team would still play in there current league but the coach would line up with the goals of the high school and their systems. How would you present this to your administration? I think we are confusing some terms here, which will make it difficult to get good answers. When you say "8th grade team" it gives the impression that you are referring to a team that is an extra curricular activity provided by a school to their students just like the HS team does for its students. However the question you are asking seems like you are asking about a community based or recreation dept based team in which kids in the community sign up and play. Can you clarify. |
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Post by harris90 on Nov 26, 2017 20:19:26 GMT -6
Yes I’m referring to the unweighted 12-14 year old team that is our town team.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 26, 2017 20:22:23 GMT -6
Yes I’m referring to the unweighted 12-14 year old team that is our town team. I think you might run into some ethics issues, along with some human resource ones. I mean essentially you are trying to create a school employee to do a job that is not related to school. Just talk to them, make the resources of the HS team available to them, reach out and try and try to develop a relationship with them. Besides that, I think the whole "same system" thing (which has been discussed ad nausea here) is extremely overrated and unnecessary. |
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Post by harris90 on Nov 26, 2017 21:12:09 GMT -6
Why is it overrated?
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Post by **** on Nov 26, 2017 21:22:10 GMT -6
Learn how to block, tackle and have fun at MS level.
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 26, 2017 21:35:26 GMT -6
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Post by harris90 on Nov 27, 2017 15:22:47 GMT -6
OP was about HOW could I present this to my administration? Yes maybe the systems won’t align but having familiarity with a coach that promotes our high school is important. We have a lot of daddy ball and other schools in are small area who actively recruit. I want to bypass that possibility and keep kids through familiarity and someone who is clearly on board.
How would you present it?
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Post by coachd5085 on Nov 27, 2017 18:33:32 GMT -6
OP was about HOW could I present this to my administration? Yes maybe the systems won’t align but having familiarity with a coach that promotes our high school is important. We have a lot of daddy ball and other schools in are small area who actively recruit. I want to bypass that possibility and keep kids through familiarity and someone who is clearly on board. How would you present it? Yes, I understand that. I would just ask. All they can do is say no. But as I mentioned, I think you will run into HR issues. You are essentially asking the school to create a new job. And one that does not actually work with the students of the school at that. That would be tough sledding. Not to mention...how exactly does that particular person get to be the coach in the first place? Have answers for these questions/issues before you ask. |
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Post by 19delta on Nov 27, 2017 21:01:46 GMT -6
OP was about HOW could I present this to my administration? Yes maybe the systems won’t align but having familiarity with a coach that promotes our high school is important. We have a lot of daddy ball and other schools in are small area who actively recruit. I want to bypass that possibility and keep kids through familiarity and someone who is clearly on board. How would you present it? Yes, I understand that. I would just ask. All they can do is say no. But as I mentioned, I think you will run into HR issues. You are essentially asking the school to create a new job. And one that does not actually work with the students of the school at that. That would be tough sledding. Not to mention...how exactly does that particular person get to be the coach in the first place? Have answers for these questions/issues before you ask. Probably will also need board approval. At least it would in my district. Another issue is liability. If the coach is going to be a district employee, the school is responsible for those kids when they are under the coach's supervision. Do the benefits of having the junior high coach on staff outweigh the financial costs to the district and exposure to potential liability? I don't know the answer to that question but I'm sure that school administrators and board members will ask it. |
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Post by jrk5150 on Nov 28, 2017 12:13:15 GMT -6
Ultimately you're better off forging a relationship with them, and either you or one/more of your assistants double up and coach the team as volunteers.
Can be done, happens all the time around here. Very few youth programs are school affiliated, and you frequently see HS coaches shepherding their sons through youth programs as coaches. Our youth program has a number of local guys who are HS AC's and coaching youth. In fact, for years, our 7th/8th grade team was coached by the Freshman HC.
No $, it's called caring about football in your town.
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