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Post by coachtua on Sept 11, 2018 11:46:10 GMT -6
Had a kid on the team ask if he could take a week off because he had 4 AP classes. This was the first week of camp and school didnt start for 3 more weeks...
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Post by olinecoach61 on Sept 12, 2018 8:15:50 GMT -6
Probably summer work he didn't do. I teach two AP Courses, no reason to miss a week of camp.
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Post by coachtua on Sept 12, 2018 12:02:29 GMT -6
He is a Freshman.
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Post by bartimus58 on Sept 19, 2018 14:20:25 GMT -6
Had a kid on the team ask if he could take a week off because he had 4 AP classes. This was the first week of camp and school didnt start for 3 more weeks... At least it was just a week. I have had 3 kids quit because they needed to focus on school this year. This was in July. |
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Post by klaby on Oct 10, 2018 13:10:14 GMT -6
STUDENT ATHLETE....Not paid football player....priorities coach....football ends for everyone
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Post by coachtua on Oct 14, 2018 9:57:08 GMT -6
STUDENT ATHLETE....Not paid football player....priorities coach....football ends for everyone School was 3 weeks away. |
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Post by coachmonkey on Oct 16, 2018 14:14:02 GMT -6
STUDENT ATHLETE....Not paid football player....priorities coach....football ends for everyone School was 3 weeks away. 4 AP classes going into freshmen year? Football is probably not his future. If it is, he is smart enough to pick anything you are doing on the field in a fraction of the time as others. |
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Post by klaby on Oct 17, 2018 8:37:29 GMT -6
STUDENT ATHLETE....Not paid football player....priorities coach....football ends for everyone School was 3 weeks away. Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Oct 17, 2018 8:59:00 GMT -6
Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. I think it's absolutely absurd to assume that OP isn't prioritizing school because he's miffed that a kid wanted to miss an essential part of summer practice for AP classes. The kid probably wanted to use that time to do his summer homework, which was assigned well before the end of the school year. That's how AP works. The kid procrastinated and then wanted to miss practice to cover for it is what it seems like. I'd be miffed about that too, and I'm all in on the classroom. Regardless, the kid showed where his priorities lie. Probably Fortnite. |
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Post by echoofthewhistle on Oct 17, 2018 9:00:08 GMT -6
Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. Education is the priority, but isn't it important for kids to learn time management honoring a commitment, and not letting your teammates down? Can't speak for coach, but our pre-season practices took up 5 hours, if you throw in travel and hygiene that leaves a kid roughly 18 more hours in a day to do what he needs to do (eat, sleep, chores, HW, etc.) |
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Post by klaby on Oct 17, 2018 9:03:00 GMT -6
Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. I think it's absolutely absurd to assume that OP isn't prioritizing school because he's miffed that a kid wanted to miss an essential part of summer practice for AP classes. The kid probably wanted to use that time to do his summer homework, which was assigned well before the end of the school year. That's how AP works. The kid procrastinated and then wanted to miss practice to cover for it is what it seems like. I'd be miffed about that too, and I'm all in on the classroom. Regardless, the kid showed where his priorities lie. Probably Fortnite. I think its ABSURD to get mad at a kid for putting his future and education before football. Want to know a reason why football numbers are down, its because of coaches that get mad at kids for doing whats right for their future and not yours. Kid made the right choice, you can rationalize it all you want, but the kid was right and so was his parents. Your won loss record isnt important to the future of the kid. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Oct 17, 2018 9:06:54 GMT -6
I think it's absolutely absurd to assume that OP isn't prioritizing school because he's miffed that a kid wanted to miss an essential part of summer practice for AP classes. The kid probably wanted to use that time to do his summer homework, which was assigned well before the end of the school year. That's how AP works. The kid procrastinated and then wanted to miss practice to cover for it is what it seems like. I'd be miffed about that too, and I'm all in on the classroom. Regardless, the kid showed where his priorities lie. Probably Fortnite. I think its ABSURD to get mad at a kid for putting his future and education before football. Want to know a reason why football numbers are down, its because of coaches that get mad at kids for doing whats right for their future and not yours. Kid made the right choice, you can rationalize it all you want, but the kid was right and so was his parents. Your won loss record isnt important to the future of the kid. Kid had all summer. Imagine being this wrong and doubling/tripling down on it. I'd let the kid go because school is more important. He'd also be paying for it on return. |
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Post by coachZL on Oct 17, 2018 10:33:49 GMT -6
I dont think OP said anything about NOT letting the kid take the time off.
I definitely understand the frustration of OP, maybe football just isn't for that kid, maybe he just put too much on his plate. One thing is for sure is that kid needs to work on his time management skills and understand what he is capable of handling. Kids have reasons for missing practice all the time, what needs to be clear is there are consequences for doing so. I personally like playing time being a consequence, it seems to be the one thing that matters most to the kids, others may say making up missed conditioning.
The kids are STUDENT ATHLETES. You cant be one if you are not both. What I mean by that is you cannot let being an athlete affect being a student or vice versa.
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Post by coachtua on Oct 17, 2018 12:09:27 GMT -6
I think it's absolutely absurd to assume that OP isn't prioritizing school because he's miffed that a kid wanted to miss an essential part of summer practice for AP classes. The kid probably wanted to use that time to do his summer homework, which was assigned well before the end of the school year. That's how AP works. The kid procrastinated and then wanted to miss practice to cover for it is what it seems like. I'd be miffed about that too, and I'm all in on the classroom. Regardless, the kid showed where his priorities lie. Probably Fortnite. I think its ABSURD to get mad at a kid for putting his future and education before football. Want to know a reason why football numbers are down, its because of coaches that get mad at kids for doing whats right for their future and not yours. Kid made the right choice, you can rationalize it all you want, but the kid was right and so was his parents. Your won loss record isnt important to the future of the kid. Kid was an incoming freshman. He didnt have any homework to do. I never said anything about not putting education first. In fact out of the 45 kids in our program all but 3 are on the honor roll, and most have over a 3.5 GPA. Our football program has the highest GPA of all sports at our school. When it comes to academics, that is the only time a kid gets a pass, no questions asked. All but 3 kids in our program are in at least 1 AP course, with most of them in at least 2 AP courses. |
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Post by newhope on Oct 18, 2018 12:05:28 GMT -6
I had one miss a game this season because he had the SAT the next day. I had one miss practice to "prepare" for the ASVAB.
Neither one actually plays--sandwich eating resume builders
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Post by cfoott on Dec 1, 2018 14:01:31 GMT -6
Kids need to learn how to juggle more than one priority. When you become an adult you can tell your wife, "Sorry honey, I need a week off from you because I have a big presentation at work I need to focus on. Good luck with the kids for that week." Get real. Those habits start now.
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Post by blb on Dec 1, 2018 14:10:30 GMT -6
Kids need to learn how to juggle more than one priority. When you become an adult you can tell your wife, "Sorry honey, I need a week off from you because I have a big presentation at work I need to focus on. Good luck with the kids for that week." Get real. Those habits start now.
cfoott, I think you meant "CAN'T" tell your wife...
At least I couldn't, and wouldn't.
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Post by cfoott on Dec 4, 2018 5:12:16 GMT -6
Kids need to learn how to juggle more than one priority. When you become an adult you can tell your wife, "Sorry honey, I need a week off from you because I have a big presentation at work I need to focus on. Good luck with the kids for that week." Get real. Those habits start now.
cfoott, I think you meant "CAN'T" tell your wife...
At least I couldn't, and wouldn't.
You are right. I did mean can't. My wife would laugh at me if I told her I need a week off to focus the championship game. |
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 4, 2018 5:34:44 GMT -6
Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. If he can't handle being a STUDENT athlete then don't do part 2.
Having had 6 kids be of our Top 10 kids play and graduate. You can do it, it depends on what you want to do.
He should give him the time off. But also FB is not in this young man's career. And there is NO problem in that! He can't do both everyone can't.
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Post by gccwolverine on Dec 5, 2018 8:52:09 GMT -6
I think it's absolutely absurd to assume that OP isn't prioritizing school because he's miffed that a kid wanted to miss an essential part of summer practice for AP classes. The kid probably wanted to use that time to do his summer homework, which was assigned well before the end of the school year. That's how AP works. The kid procrastinated and then wanted to miss practice to cover for it is what it seems like. I'd be miffed about that too, and I'm all in on the classroom. Regardless, the kid showed where his priorities lie. Probably Fortnite. I think its ABSURD to get mad at a kid for putting his future and education before football. Want to know a reason why football numbers are down, its because of coaches that get mad at kids for doing whats right for their future and not yours. Kid made the right choice, you can rationalize it all you want, but the kid was right and so was his parents. Your won loss record isnt important to the future of the kid. why even practice then? Let's just cancel everything we can throw the extra 2+ hours into academics or procrastination of academics just show up on Friday's roll the ball out and run around and just have fun and sing kumbyyah |
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Post by rsmith627 on Dec 5, 2018 9:26:29 GMT -6
Imagine if kids were able to properly budget time between multiple commitments. I took AP classes my junior and senior year, got my summer assignments done well before football started, while working a job, and still showed up for two-a-days without asking if I could skip practice because I was irresponsible all summer long.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 5, 2018 13:59:54 GMT -6
I think it's absolutely absurd to assume that OP isn't prioritizing school because he's miffed that a kid wanted to miss an essential part of summer practice for AP classes. The kid probably wanted to use that time to do his summer homework, which was assigned well before the end of the school year. That's how AP works. The kid procrastinated and then wanted to miss practice to cover for it is what it seems like. I'd be miffed about that too, and I'm all in on the classroom. Regardless, the kid showed where his priorities lie. Probably Fortnite. I think its ABSURD to get mad at a kid for putting his future and education before football. Want to know a reason why football numbers are down, its because of coaches that get mad at kids for doing whats right for their future and not yours. Kid made the right choice, you can rationalize it all you want, but the kid was right and so was his parents. Your won loss record isnt important to the future of the kid. The term "student-athlete" goes both ways: if the "student" can't take care of academic priorities, then he doesn't get to be an "athlete". In my experience, AP classes are very specific in what needs to be taken care of prior to the school year. This student failed to do so and, as such, football apparently isn't in his future for the year. This is no different than a kid falling behind during the school year and ending up academically ineligible. Or, if a coach does grade checks, mid-season and finds out that a kid is bombing his classes and sits him until his grades are acceptable. |
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Post by cqmiller on Dec 5, 2018 14:05:14 GMT -6
Junior Year of HS...
SCHOOL
AP Chemistry
AP Physics
AP Biology
AP Calculus
AP American History
Honors English
Weight Training
Athletics
SPORTS
JV & Varsity Football (allowed here)
JV & Varsity Basketball (allowed here)
JV & Varsity Baseball (allowed here)
Kids can find SYMPATHY in the dictionary betweeen $H!T and SYPHILIS if they can't manage their time, it will bite you in the @ss
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 5, 2018 19:53:43 GMT -6
Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. A little late to the party, but I have to really disagree with your assessment here. It was 3 weeks before the start of the school year. Missing 3-4 of the 24 hour day for something 3 weeks away seems a bit inappropriate. As others have mentioned, education encompasses much more than simple academics. In fact I would make a strong argument that the soft skills necessary for success as an adult are more important than most academic classes at the HS level. This could be one of those opportunities. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Dec 6, 2018 3:27:32 GMT -6
Coach you might want to rethink your career choices....sorry but if you cant see that education is more important than football your priorities are just messed up. football is not a priority in life, less than 1% of these kids will make a living with football. football isn't going to put food on the family table. And for a coach that coaches student athletes and not professionals to not see that, indicates to me your in the wrong line of work. A little late to the party, but I have to really disagree with your assessment here. It was 3 weeks before the start of the school year. Missing 3-4 of the 24 hour day for something 3 weeks away seems a bit inappropriate. As others have mentioned, education encompasses much more than simple academics. In fact I would make a strong argument that the soft skills necessary for success as an adult are more important than most academic classes at the HS level. This could be one of those opportunities. Soft skills have died in favor of "academic rigor." One can even see it in this thread. |
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Post by coachdavis11 on Dec 6, 2018 7:56:52 GMT -6
9 out of 10 kids that I've dealt with in the 25 years I've done this do not focus on the school work that they say they are.... that goes for AP or anything else....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 14:57:34 GMT -6
klabyCan't tell if you are trolling or not. If you are, you are doing a great job. If you are not, well then, how about this as food for thought. This is the summer time, the kid is not in school. Unless this kid is waking up at 8am and doing homework all day until he goes to bed at 10pm in the evening, there is plenty of time for other enriching activities, such as football. I use this scenario often when kids tell me they are quitting because their grades are suffering, something alone the line of, "Oh ya? You going home after school, doing homework from 3pm until 10pm?" This is usually met with a "Well, no." So let us be 100% honest with each other, no one is running such a demanding summer football program that this young man could not be doing all of his homework, participating in football activities, and playing Fortnite.
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