Post by futurecoach on Jun 16, 2006 16:13:14 GMT -6
Franchione at A&M never played. In fact, I've heard he has NEVER actually played a down of football. Can someone verify this about Fran? I think Paul Johnson at either Army or Navy (I don't remember when one) didn't play nor Mangino at Kansas.
I never played in college. Went to the University of Arizona on a track scholarship and was an All-American shot putter and hammer thrower. During my jr. year Tomey used to come around the weight room and bug me and my training partner almost everyday about walking on to the team. Being a track guy, at the time I was bigger, stronger, and faster than any linebacker on his team. I had second thoughts about making a comeback after a three year hiatus and becoming practice meat for Rob Waldrop and the rest of Desert Swarm.
Got into coaching track after college. Coached a couple of years at the JUCO level and decided I wanted to try the high school level. Coached track only the first year and was asked to work with the football team on speed and strength development for the upcoming season and to also help with RB's adn LB's. Got bit bad by the football bug again and have been at it ever since. Moved up the ladder from strength and cond. coach, to position coach, to assisstant DC, to assistant head coach, to JV head coach, and now HC of my own program.
IMHO good coaches can coach anything as long as they take the time to learn the game.
Post by coachnicholson on Jun 18, 2006 11:00:53 GMT -6
I did everything within my power to play college ball but it just wasnt meant to be. For starters I was a 5'10 (stretching it) 215 pound OL/DL so obviously the offers werent exactly pouring in. Secondly, I didnt exactly set the world on fire in the class room during my high school career which made it impossible to get into the small private colleges (D3) that I could have played at.
Following high school I spent 2 years at a community college. During those 2 years I learned how to succeed in the classroom. At this time I was on top of the world...had my grades up high enough to get into a D3 school. So after 2 years away from playing I decided to go for it. I transfered to a D3 school (Mount Union). About half way thru camp at MUC a sleeping disorder flared up that I had previously battled with in high school. I dealt with it until the 2nd week of the regular season...at this time I had to withdraw from school to take the time to get my health in order.
I finally realized that playing college ball just wasnt meant to be for me. After taking 1 semester off from college I returned and went back into coaching football.
Try having to explain that everytime someone asks if you played college ball! Sometimes I say yes, sometimes I say no. I am still in search of a simple way to explain what I just typed without going into a long drawn out story.
I got looks from several smaller schools, but I originally wanted to go to physical therapy school and none of them had a prep program for it. Funny thing is, I got my first degree in Kinesiology but decided that I didn't want to go to physical therapy school, now I'm working on a health enhancement teaching cert. All of the schools that were looking at me had teaching programs- kind of kicking myself in the butt over that one.
I only played one year of high school football. Didn't get a kick out of being a 5'-6", 125 lb. scout team fullback / strong safety. Then when the first two fullbacks went down and they found 2 more people to fill their spots and I stayed 4th on the depth chart I realized how much I was gonna see the field, and dropped football after the season. And actually never thought twice about it, then when I moved back home after college a friend that was coaching the middle school asked me to come out and help for a little bit. That was 8 years ago, and now I'm OC at the high school. Did get in one series in high school tho, got the ball on a dive on 2nd down and got 4 yards. Now I tell everybody I averaged 4 yds. a carry in high school.
I know Bill Belichick of the Pats Played was a LAXER and didn't play football but I think his dad was a coach for the US Naval Academy for years..... I only played 3 years in college first 2 were great then head coach and staff moved on two greener pastures. Admistration brought in some Almuni that was an o-line coach at a rival school in the same league who had no head coaching experience and we went from 9-2 to 1-10 in a year. Had an end of the year meeting with the head coach (who also coached my position) he asked me to be honest and I was. He told me that I should transfer because he wasn't going to leave. So I did the school I transferred to screws up my compliance stuff and I lose my senior year of football. Started coaching at a local high school when I was in college and have never looked back. Did I miss it yup every second. But i would not have been able to look myself in the mirror if I would have lied to our Head Coach.....For what its worth I think that playing experience is overrated. The biggest thing is what can you teach the kids and get them to excute on friday nites. Thats all that matters not what you could do or how big you were when you were 18,19,20 years old.....
i tired to play college football but I just was not good enough. i think I impressed the coach, so when I told him I was not coming back to play football after my 2nd season, he offered me a student assistant job.
if you really want to coach, I would say become a student assistant at a D 2 or D 3 school. D1 you are going to be a coaches gopher. go get his dry cleaning, go get his fancy car washed and oh by the way, stay and watch film tell midnight.
my first year was a learning year, my second year I actually coached a position, my thrid and 4thj year(yes i took me 6 to graduate) I was actaully a part of the staff on a part time basis. I actually had real duties and I was a booth coach with the oc.
while playing was nice for those two years, I learned more football the time I spend as a student coach. I also had 4 coaches who would write me letters on my behalf for jobs.
plus I got to know the AD really well. I never paid for a dinner. they knew I could not afford it, so they took care of me. I went to clinics all over the place. it was great.
so if you really want to be a coach, playing might not be the way to go about it.
Post by stackattack on Jun 22, 2006 21:04:56 GMT -6
I played two years in HS. My youngers days I was devoted to baseball and never even thought about playing football until I moved to a new high school and all the baseball spots were filled. Our HS was pretty good and that winning tradition drew me in. My junior year I played mostly JV and my senior year I started at DT and long snapper. I had no intentions on playing in college but my roommate told me that the team needed walk-on linemen, so I tried out and earned a spot at a major D-I program. About one month into being a football player I tore cartilage in my knee that required the removal of about 70% and needed rehab. Since I was only a walk-on I assume the university didn't want to spend the time rehabbing a lowly walk-on so they told me to take the semester off and return during the next semester. I figured my only role on the team was going to be a practice player and tackling dummy, so I went into coaching. Long story short...I never played college football, coached freshmen, varsity for 3 years and now am a DC.
Post by ttowntiger on Jun 23, 2006 10:07:11 GMT -6
Funny story: A guy I graduated college with, obviously knowing how much playing experience helps get a job, put that he played college football on his resume'. Which he didn't (he may have gone out there a day or 2 trying to walk on). The funny part about it was, he was actually a CHEERLEADER!!!!! He didn't put that on his resume'. I got kind of PO'ed though when he got a job that we both had interviewed for. Who knows, his college football "playing experince" might have been the difference.
Playing success (or playing at all!) in college or in high school does not indicate coaching ability. Stress your coaching skills and success on your resume and during the interview.
Being able to say, "I played 4 years at State Univ." is a nice extra, but really has nothing to do with coaching. I would rather hire someone who knows how to get someone else (someone who is not so talented) play better, than have someone who was simply a good player.
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