Love to hear what you thought. I'm likely going to get my QB's and Rec. to one next year- my QB's have attended Jeff Trickey camps which are excellent but I've heard very positive comments on Coach Slacks camps so I figured I give one a go.
Last Edit: Jul 15, 2007 21:16:27 GMT -6 by ajreaper
Words to describe our program's experience from the day and a half with Coach Slack & Co just wouldn't do it justice.
It is like nothing I've ever seen in terms of instruction or "camps" it literally has no equal in;
the amount of instruction each player receives the amount of pragmatic information that is imparted to the player the comprehensive Gestalt methodology of piecing the TOTAL Art & Science of Quarterbacking ("not just throwing the football") the complete package of what an ideal FOOTBALL player would be ....(leadership training / character building / fundamental truths of consistent throws / confidence building / "How to be a Man"
I would like to think I know 'something' (?)....I had worked with a guy that was a starting QB for Ole Miss in my early coaching days, I've watched and attended numerous camps and watched shelves of videos of the top Pro & College authorities.......but Coach Slack has them all beat.
You WILL NOT find anything like this on earth. You can take MY word for it.
All I can say is Neo, take the BLUE pill........and forget everything you THOUGHT you knew about quarterbacking.
I completely echo everything Brophy just said. Make no mistake about it.. Coach Slack may come across as an easy going person on this board.. but this guy is one of the most passionate people I have ever met. His words and instruction burn deep into your mind and the 3 hour ride back keeps bringing up thoughts and reflections of every word he said.
If you plan on attempting even 1 pass per game this year.. do yourself a favor and get your kids to Florida, or attempt to get them in contact with Coach Slack next year.. You will not regret it.
You gotta work harder than you planned on working if you wanna be better than you planned on being!
Thank you men. Unbelievably kind of you both! Brophy, I will get that check for those great props out tomorrow! Are you sure you will really need ALL the money I made on the camp for those thoughts? I understand you set the price, but Can I keep some to take my kids to Mickey D's(ha ha) Now that I can put a face to the name - this will be fun. I really enjoyed getting to work with Ronnie and Curtis. They were great! I wish you the best this season. Please keep me posted on their progress.
Darin how young do you work with them? I will have you one ready in a couple of years to learn. I do not have any videos, but have seen your site and I am impressed. I just saw it and will be ordering videos soon. My son is 6, but he eats it up and wants to be a qb, I like him to have a good teacher that really understands passing mechanics. I can teach him how to read midline and veer, steps in the wing-t etc. Fundamentally I want him prepared to succeed in any scheme. What could I do now to help him?
Ideally, we just suggest 7th grade for a standard 2 day camp as a minimum. In terms of individual coaching, the younger they get, the more I am coaching the Dad rather than the son. I see my role as serving you, no matter how old the kid is. Many dads are frustrated that they don't know how to insert mechanics training with their kids, so I teach both of you to put you on the same page, so it minimizes confusion.
To the question, the youngest where I have seen the most stuff stick when it is taught from me is 12 years old. I coach younger ones, but I intentionally limit the sessions with me, and try to position the father as the primary coach until around 12-13.
The most important training that young man needs is character, in my opinion, not passing mechanics. My own son throws a pretty decent ball, but he will tell you that while we played catch and he was around my camps, etc. I didn't start heavily inputting to his mechanics until he was 13.
When he was younger, we would play with the drills I teach for a few minutes( I knew they would do the work for me if I explained them properly) and then we would just play catch. I would ask him what he thought he did wrong, and let him try to work out what he was hearing. I believe it is one of the few things I have done right by him.
NEPOTISM ALERT! Do not read past this point if you are offended by the mere possibility of nepotism...
He might be one of the sharpest young QB coaches I have ever seen. He is 15. I know he is my kid so that disqualifies my opinion, but believe me, I am tougher on him than anyone both in expectations and evaluation.
However, when he gets with someone to teach them, he regularly is not only able to explain it effectively for change, but I am using references he uses at his age with the kids I train. He is explaining it to his peers in language they get. That is a valuable resource for me. He doesn't put himself out there, I often send him into situations, and the reports often humble me-"Hey coach, I don't even need you, Michael has me throwing gas!"
My point is that more is caught, than taught, and that is what my son has shown me. He has played with it so long, that he can articulate the concepts out of his own feel, rather than just regurgitate information I have said. He has his own set of convictions he can teach from, and that makes him so good. That is what I would want for any young man. To develop convictions about this material early on for confidence.
These throwing concepts are easy enough for your son to understand now, and as he grows, he will get better at feeling how to fix what's broken. What he needs is the sounding board of acceptance to bounce off ideas and repetition.
I am really needed most when "the change" starts to happen in them in the early teen years. Their body grows, their arms lengthen, angles change, and it can get confusing. I can still keep it simple, but effective, through those strange years.
One of the nice things about my son, and believe me I am experimenting on him for all of this, is that when we talk about his mechanics, he is so in touch with the language and what he feels, we can discuss a concept and he can actually do it.
Now, he isn't done by any stretch, he is still undisciplined, but he is constantly working toward maturity in mechanics, as well as maturity to manhood. You just can't lose there. So, get your son talking about the videos with you and what he feels when he throws it.
Get him to be able to use the language to explain it. Once you get on the same page, he will grow up in this stuff much faster. Hope that helps.
Can I keep some to take my kids to Mickey D's(ha ha)
Darin- you need to get some of that Prejeans food in the negotiations with brophy next time. Nobody cooks like those cajuns!
In terms of individual coaching, the younger they get, the more I am coaching the Dad rather than the son. I see my role as serving you, no matter how old the kid is. Many dads are frustrated that they don't know how to insert mechanics training with their kids, so I teach both of you to put you on the same page, so it minimizes confusion.
So true! We had 6 kids, three coaches and I think 4 dads all on the field going through the same drills with Coach Slack last month. It doesn't matter what they learn at a camp if they don't have the support system back home to reinforce it, so if your QB works with Coach Slack go with him or send his dad.
However, when he gets with someone to teach them, he regularly is not only able to explain it effectively for change, but I am using references he uses at his age with the kids I train. He is explaining it to his peers in language they get.
Nepotism or not it's true. I've seen it. I think it's awesome you get to take your sons with you on the road. I know it's tough but you all do a great job! Now about Mark, is there a zero position for golf?
I got a girl in the castle and one in the pagoda, You know I got rhymes like Abe Vigoda. #freedom #Merica #ineedahaircut
actually i used it 3 yrs ago with my oldest son's little League team...it was a good refernce for most of the pitchers. In fact Darin and I talked about its effectiveness that season allowing me to develop two aweful pitchers into ones that could give me two to three good innings when needed.
Thanks utchuckd. I am confident there is a zero in golf. It would involve the position of the body, hands, and arms at impact.
Not sure if there is a legitimate correlation to baseball. I am not a baseball expert. I have spoken to many coaches who feel that there is some benefit to the concept, but the dynamics are different on some level for sure. I understand there are some baseball pitching coaches who have incorporated these concepts. Paul Nyman wrote some articles about it, and that is about as close as anything I have seen before to what I teach.
I am sure a coach who knows what he is doing with a baseball player can use it. The alignment concept works, because of body design. I will be looking into it more this fall, so I can speak to the baseball coaches more intelligently when they ask. I am sorry I don't know more about that, but I don't want to represent something I don't know.
Post by eaglefbcoach1 on Apr 21, 2008 17:54:37 GMT -6
Last year I accompanied our QB to Darin's Camp in Lucasville, Ohio. Our QB was coming off of his Sophomore season and had some major mechanical flaws that were limiting his ability to become a premier player. I had already purchased the C4 DVD set and had some understanding of what Coach Slack was teaching, but the camp really pulled it all together for both our QB and myself. Our QB worked very hard during the off season and applied Coach Slacks methods to correct the motion flaws.
During this year's season our QB (a Junior) was able to perform at a very high level on a team that was not very good. I received several inquiries on what I had done to change the QB's performance and many of the coaches in our area were completely shocked when they saw him on film. They were not completely believing that it was the same player from the year before. Coach Slack's DVD's and our experience at the camp was the biggest factor in the QB's improvement. I am a much better coach today because of what I have learned from Coach Slack. If you can get to his camp, you really should go. He is great about working with the coach or father to help them to effectively work with the player. He did not charge me a dime to attend the camp with our QB and I learned more about mechanics than all the clinics I have ever attended. Great experience for both player and coach!
Our QB is currently being recruited by several BCS schools. Big East (UC, BC, Louisville, Syracuse) SEC (UK, Tennessee) Big 12 (Oklahoma) MAC (Miami) Ivy League (Harvard) He has been invited to numerous Junior days and elite QB Combines. He will be a great player for any college program that is in need of a traditional Drop back QB. He is 6'6" and 215 lbs and one of the toughest kids I have ever worked with. Our team has not been very good for a number of years and our QB still produces very impressive numbers. I know that if we had not found Coach Slack and attended his camp, our QB would never have reached his current level. Thanks Coach Slack
Coach Waddle Walnut Hills High School, Cincinnati Ohio
Post by coachpodach on Apr 22, 2008 10:10:17 GMT -6
I had the pleasure of listening to Darin at Northwest Ohio Coaches Clinic in Toledo. After speaking with him one on one for 15 minutes I understand more than now than any book or video could have taught me. Thanks again Darin! Coach Hrabak says hello as well!
"Coach, this chair will not fit out the pressbox window"
I am taking my QB's to his camp in AZ, I looking forward to meeting Darin and learning more on the QB position. Darin has help me on this site and I'm sure is going to help my QB. I have also bought his video series. Slack its nice to have you part of this site.
Coach Waddle, Your words were a great encouragement to me, your timing could not have been better.
Coaches, thanks for your pursuit of the camps, I look forward to seeing you this summer. The camps are $249/player. Scoresomemore, we currently don't have any discounts listed on the site for multiple QBs. I don't want to mislead anyone expecting a multi player discount. If there is a need, we will always do what we can for those folks, but currently it isn't being offered due to simplifying the process. We keep the price low overall, rather than setting up layers of discounts. I hope that doesn't deter anyone, as we believe the value of the camp is well worth the fee. I guess this thread will sell that.