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Post by coachcb on Oct 24, 2018 13:31:46 GMT -6
We ask parents for their kid, their time, their money and their support. Why can't they ask about playing time? Bob Ladouceur says in his book "if a parent wants to watch every clip of film with me on a Saturday then they can discuss playing time" He also states that he even avoids questions like "Hows Johnny doing??" Yup... And that philosophy extends to everyone that's NOT at our practices every day and breaking down film with us. We have a middle school coach that was showing up to our games on Friday nights and "critiquing" our LB play. "Why are you guys reading guards AD the back.. Wouldn't it just be easier to read flow?" Why don't the linebackers man up on routes coming through their zone?" Early in the season, I had a civil conversation with him about what he "was seeing" and told him how he could apply it at the JH level. He didn't do so and it was obvious he was just playing "analyst". He approached me right after a nail-biting win and I wasn't in the mood to talk to him. I politely told him that I didn't want to chat but he kept at it so I pulled him aside and we had a "discussion". I told him that his opinion held no water with me as he was barely around for our summer camps and workouts and hadn't darkened the door of one of our meetings. I then told him to take his thought on our linebackers to the HC if he felt so passionately about it but to leave me the alone. He did so and got an earful from the HC.
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Post by 19delta on Oct 26, 2018 0:25:28 GMT -6
Bob Ladouceur says in his book "if a parent wants to watch every clip of film with me on a Saturday then they can discuss playing time" He also states that he even avoids questions like "Hows Johnny doing??" Yup... And that philosophy extends to everyone that's NOT at our practices every day and breaking down film with us. We have a middle school coach that was showing up to our games on Friday nights and "critiquing" our LB play. "Why are you guys reading guards AD the back.. Wouldn't it just be easier to read flow?" Why don't the linebackers man up on routes coming through their zone?" Early in the season, I had a civil conversation with him about what he "was seeing" and told him how he could apply it at the JH level. He didn't do so and it was obvious he was just playing "analyst". He approached me right after a nail-biting win and I wasn't in the mood to talk to him. I politely told him that I didn't want to chat but he kept at it so I pulled him aside and we had a "discussion". I told him that his opinion held no water with me as he was barely around for our summer camps and workouts and hadn't darkened the door of one of our meetings. I then told him to take his thought on our linebackers to the HC if he felt so passionately about it but to leave me the alone. He did so and got an earful from the HC. I'm a PE teacher at our high school but not a high school football coach. I have a senior football player in one of my classes (strength and conditioning). Great kid....good attitude, nice athlete, and just a really fun kid to be around. He has a razor-sharp wit and finds a way to make me laugh every day! Kid plays running back and defensive back but has not got a lot of playing time this year. On probably half the teams in our league, he would be a two-way starter but he is a special teamer for us. Long story boring, I really like the kid a lot and wish he was getting to play more than mop-up duty at the end of the game. With that being said, I also recognize that I'm not at practice every day for 2.5 hours after school. I don't see what the football coaches have seen from this kid 6 days a week since the beginning of August. And even though I don't know what the coaches see, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that, if this kid was good enough, he would be getting more snaps than he is. The thing about football is that it seems to get easier the further away you get. But that distance also obscures reality and it's not fair to criticize the high school coaches if I don't have all the facts.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 26, 2018 11:53:55 GMT -6
Yup... And that philosophy extends to everyone that's NOT at our practices every day and breaking down film with us. We have a middle school coach that was showing up to our games on Friday nights and "critiquing" our LB play. "Why are you guys reading guards AD the back.. Wouldn't it just be easier to read flow?" Why don't the linebackers man up on routes coming through their zone?" Early in the season, I had a civil conversation with him about what he "was seeing" and told him how he could apply it at the JH level. He didn't do so and it was obvious he was just playing "analyst". He approached me right after a nail-biting win and I wasn't in the mood to talk to him. I politely told him that I didn't want to chat but he kept at it so I pulled him aside and we had a "discussion". I told him that his opinion held no water with me as he was barely around for our summer camps and workouts and hadn't darkened the door of one of our meetings. I then told him to take his thought on our linebackers to the HC if he felt so passionately about it but to leave me the alone. He did so and got an earful from the HC. I'm a PE teacher at our high school but not a high school football coach. I have a senior football player in one of my classes (strength and conditioning). Great kid....good attitude, nice athlete, and just a really fun kid to be around. He has a razor-sharp wit and finds a way to make me laugh every day! Kid plays running back and defensive back but has not got a lot of playing time this year. On probably half the teams in our league, he would be a two-way starter but he is a special teamer for us. Long story boring, I really like the kid a lot and wish he was getting to play more than mop-up duty at the end of the game. With that being said, I also recognize that I'm not at practice every day for 2.5 hours after school. I don't see what the football coaches have seen from this kid 6 days a week since the beginning of August. And even though I don't know what the coaches see, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that, if this kid was good enough, he would be getting more snaps than he is. The thing about football is that it seems to get easier the further away you get. But that distance also obscures reality and it's not fair to criticize the high school coaches if I don't have all the facts. That's the way to handle it. We know that we're going to get grief from the community about certain things as everyone has their opinion and many feel the need to voice it. We shake it off, do what we do and move forward. But, it's a whole different story when it's coming from a friggin' junior high coach at a feeder school. He's a part of the program at a basic level and needs to toe the line. Our junior high coaches know they are welcome to join us for meetings, ask questions, and provide constructive input. They don't so they can keep their traps shut.
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Post by throwahitch on Oct 29, 2018 12:24:17 GMT -6
Bob Ladouceur says in his book "if a parent wants to watch every clip of film with me on a Saturday then they can discuss playing time" He also states that he even avoids questions like "Hows Johnny doing??" Yup... And that philosophy extends to everyone that's NOT at our practices every day and breaking down film with us. We have a middle school coach that was showing up to our games on Friday nights and "critiquing" our LB play. "Why are you guys reading guards AD the back.. Wouldn't it just be easier to read flow?" Why don't the linebackers man up on routes coming through their zone?" Early in the season, I had a civil conversation with him about what he "was seeing" and told him how he could apply it at the JH level. He didn't do so and it was obvious he was just playing "analyst". He approached me right after a nail-biting win and I wasn't in the mood to talk to him. I politely told him that I didn't want to chat but he kept at it so I pulled him aside and we had a "discussion". I told him that his opinion held no water with me as he was barely around for our summer camps and workouts and hadn't darkened the door of one of our meetings. I then told him to take his thought on our linebackers to the HC if he felt so passionately about it but to leave me the alone. He did so and got an earful from the HC. What idiot teaches not to read guards...
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Post by coachcb on Oct 29, 2018 12:46:12 GMT -6
Yup... And that philosophy extends to everyone that's NOT at our practices every day and breaking down film with us. We have a middle school coach that was showing up to our games on Friday nights and "critiquing" our LB play. "Why are you guys reading guards AD the back.. Wouldn't it just be easier to read flow?" Why don't the linebackers man up on routes coming through their zone?" Early in the season, I had a civil conversation with him about what he "was seeing" and told him how he could apply it at the JH level. He didn't do so and it was obvious he was just playing "analyst". He approached me right after a nail-biting win and I wasn't in the mood to talk to him. I politely told him that I didn't want to chat but he kept at it so I pulled him aside and we had a "discussion". I told him that his opinion held no water with me as he was barely around for our summer camps and workouts and hadn't darkened the door of one of our meetings. I then told him to take his thought on our linebackers to the HC if he felt so passionately about it but to leave me the alone. He did so and got an earful from the HC. What idiot teaches not to read guards... He's in the unfortunate position of being over his head without realizing he's over his head.. But, that happens when your ego is bigger than your knowledge base. Thankfully, he's learned to avoid me.
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Post by coachfrigo on Dec 17, 2018 16:14:55 GMT -6
I am not saying it's the right way to do things but I personally think every kid that is in good standing should play every game at the lower levels. And at varsity the kids that have been invested in the program should be played as often as possible. If our sport is struggling with numbers, then we need to allow kids to experience the best part of it...playing. I know their is value in competition and winning but on the freshmen B team surely there is a spot this could have gotten in without ruining the outcome for everything. If he was a turd, I would have a different opinion but good kids deserve to play. Plus you never know what will happen to a motivated kids in over the course of a 4 year high school career. This. Especially the last statement. I was so terrible my freshman year, that I almost got cut from the freshman team of the worst team in the state. Glad my coach stuck with me, because I became a team captain, and the longest tenured varsity player in team history (I'm sure some stud has now started from the very beginning).
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Colonel Perry
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Random Thought: Parents who call plays from the stands should join my staff.
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Post by Colonel Perry on Dec 30, 2018 23:11:43 GMT -6
I invite the parents to practice and let them see firsthand if their son is capable of playing as much as he could if he was better. Usually get my point across.
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Post by 50slantstrong on Dec 31, 2018 13:15:15 GMT -6
I invite the parents to practice and let them see firsthand if their son is capable of playing as much as he could if he was better. Usually get my point across. I’d be careful with that. Our basketball coach did that with a parent pissed about playing time and he got a 4 paragraph text about how bad the other kids were.
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Post by s73 on Jan 1, 2019 12:00:49 GMT -6
I shared this before but I'll share it again. Was talking with a very successful coach once and was complaining about parents & how they were getting to me etc.
He said and I quote, " If you're walking down the side walk and you see a pile of "$hit" are you going to stop & think about it or are you going to step around it and keep on moving".
That has always stuck w/ me and been very helpful.
Obviously their are good parents out their, but those are rarely the ones on our minds. Anytime I get worked up I think of the analogy.
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Post by StraightFlexin on Dec 10, 2019 10:47:07 GMT -6
Years ago I met with a mother that was furious about her son's lack of playing time. First off, I am a special education teacher. Her son had a cognitive impairment and a full time para at practice. He could not dress in football equipment by himself or tell you his address, yet she was adamant about him getting fair playing time. I explained to her that he has not shown the ability in practice to protect himself or others. She came back with "He's a gamer". So there's that
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Post by klaby on Dec 16, 2019 11:32:04 GMT -6
What idiot teaches not to read guards... He's in the unfortunate position of being over his head without realizing he's over his head.. But, that happens when your ego is bigger than your knowledge base. Thankfully, he's learned to avoid me. Had a Dad one year who was a "bleacher coach". One game screamed out so loud everyone heard him "you need to block the Defensive end!" after his kid who played QB got drilled by the 5 Tech. Problem was we ran Veer and his kid was to have read the 5 tech, it was a clear give read. After the game he came up to me and asked why I didn't block the DE on 3 plays that his kid got planted on? I then explained the concept of how we ran veer and how his kid is at fault for getting planted not me....Only I didnt say DE, i said 5 tech, and he then asked what the heck i was talking about as he wanted me to block the DE, my response was exactly....and i walked away.
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