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Post by mahonz on Mar 31, 2009 14:18:36 GMT -6
Gentlemen
My league questions are almost complete.
What are your league registration fees and how many games does that fee guarantee?
Does your league provide any gear for the players in that fee?
Does your league have mandatory league fundraisers?
Do the teams in your league charge a separate team fee outside of the registration fee?
Does your league provide the coaches with any practice or game equipment other than fields and officials?
Example: Registration fee $150.00 for 8 games guaranteed. Registration fee includes a game jersey only. No mandatory league fund raising required with a separate team fee of $100.00 for the banquet. Our league provides the coaches with 6 footballs and a 1 tee.
Thanks for all of the feedback. I really do appreciate it.
Coach Mike
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Post by eickst on Mar 31, 2009 14:57:15 GMT -6
In our league, each individual chapter (city) sets its own registration fee but the league charges approx. $1250 per team in what they call "red line fees". Those fees cover referees and I believe insurance but of that I cannot be totally certain.
Our chapter charges 225 for registration.
That guarantees 8 games.
Yes we do mandatory fundraisers.
None of the teams that I am aware of do a seperate fee.
Our chapter does not provide any equipment to coaches, no bags/shields/dummies/sleds or anything.
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Post by coachdoug on Mar 31, 2009 15:01:15 GMT -6
Our fee is about $250 plus $50 in prepaid raffle tickets that they can sell. So they pay $300 up front and get back $50 if they sell the raffle tickets. Players can request additional raffle tickets to sell to help reduce the cost. We also offer various discounts for signing up early and if a family has multiple children in the program. Regular season is 8 games (which I guess would be the guarantee you mentioned), plus however many postseason games the team qualifies for.
Gear that is provided includes helmet, chinstrap, mouthguard, shoulder pads, practice pants and pads, game pants, game jerseys (home & away), and game socks - all of which (except mouthguards and socks) must be returned after the season. The program collects a deposit on the equipment which is returned when all the equipment is returned. Most teams buy their own practice jerseys, and players must supply their own jock & cup, girdle & pads, and cleats. We used to provide girdles, but since they are practically underwear and don't last long, plus with all the new padded undergarments available, we stopped doing so about 5 or 6 years ago. We have provided cleats on occasion in the past when we've gotten a donation of cleats from a supplier, but it is not our regular practice. Players are encouraged, but not required to get team logo equipment bags, jackets, hats, and other merchandise. At year-end all players get a trophy. Team & individual photos are also included in the base fee.
Regarding fund raisers, we have done several in the past, but generally everyone seems to prefer paying a higher fee up front and not having to deal with the hassle of selling candy or whatever and then having a bunch of the junk around their house. Now the only mandatory fundraiser we do now is we have a "Jog-a-Thon," which we incorporate into our conditioning week. Players get pledges from friends, family, their parent's co-workers, etc. for each lap they run, and the final day of conditioning is the Jog-a-Thon. Prizes are awarded for the top fundraisers.
Individual teams do not charge any separate fees outside of the league registration fee. Coaches can, however, take collections for certain things. For instance, as I mentioned above, several teams get their own practice jerseys. Generally, the head coach will organize it and order the jerseys (this way he can get all the players in their proper game #s to reduce confusion) and collect the $$ from the parents. Some coaches will take a collection to get scouting films made (although most coaches eat this expense themselves). If a team is going to travel, they can do their own fundraiser if they need to.
Each coach is provided with a first aid kit, 20-30 ice packs, an equipment repair kit (basic tools and extra straps, clips, screws, mouth guards, chin straps, etc.), about 4-6 balls (varies year to year), 1 kickoff tee, 1 PAT tee, 2-3 standup dummies and 2-3 shields. Most years coaches are also provided with hats and polo shirts. Coaches are on their own for whistles, stop watches, clipboards, cones, whiteboards, etc.
Sorry so verbose - I know that was probably a lot more info than you wanted. Anyway, I hope it helps.
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Post by cyflcoach on Mar 31, 2009 17:15:22 GMT -6
Total fee to our league is $160 ($85 registration + $75 required raffle ticket sales).
Helmet, shoulder pads, 7pc pad set and mouthpiece are provided for all players. Kids are allowed to keep game jerseys and game pants at the conclusion of season (can be worn next season for practice gear if desired).
All league teams play at least 8 games during our regular season.
Coaches are provided with 2 game balls and 1-2 practice balls along with a 5 gallon water cooler if they don't already have one. We are hoping to provide at couple of shields/dummies beginning this season if our budget permits.
Our league pays for background screenings (through NCSI), but, coaches are required to pay $10 for certification courses through USA Football. Additionally, all returning Head and Asst. Head coaches will have to either attend a coaching clinic, purchase a coaching video or otherwise display proof of some type of investment in improving their coaching abilities prior to being approved for the upcoming season.
Dave Hartman
CYFL Coach
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Post by casec11 on Mar 31, 2009 22:10:51 GMT -6
What are your league registration fees and how many games does that fee guarantee?
Our League is made up of cities/programs and each city sets its own registration fee... (we are a travel league)I think they range from $125 up to $200/$250
We play an 11 game season
Does your league provide any gear for the players in that fee?
Helmet and all pads. practice and game uniforms. the only thing they need are a mouthpiece, girdle and cleats
Does your league have mandatory league fundraisers?
Our city/program mandates that each coaching staff raise $1000 for the program and anything after that goes to your specific team
Do the teams in your league charge a separate team fee outside of the registration fee? The city/program must pay a fee to the league... not sure how much
Does your league provide the coaches with any practice or game equipment other than fields and officials? Last year we got 2 balls and 2 tees from program. also a hemet repair parts. Home program also provides game ball
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Post by coachmsl on Apr 1, 2009 17:28:12 GMT -6
$150
We provide everything except the cleats
$75 buyout fundraiser if thye chose not to participate in the fundraiser.
No
Yes. Balls, Tees, repair kits, dummies, shields, practice field with sled (coop)
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Post by nrmccarthy12 on Apr 5, 2009 17:47:49 GMT -6
What are your league registration fees and how many games does that fee guarantee?
League Fee: $125 (or $150, the day practice starts). 7 reg. season games, 1-2 pre-season, and potentially 3 post-season games.
Does your league provide any gear for the players in that fee?
Helmet, shoulder pads, game and practice pants, all pant pads, and practice uniforms. They need to purchase a mouthpiece, girdle and cleats...some teams must purchase game jerseys; others use the standard league jerseys.
Does your league have mandatory league fundraisers?
Each team must raise $1000 for the program (covers referees, insurance, field maintenance, lights/electric bill, etc...) and anything after that goes to your specific team for Banquet, trophies, etc...
Do the teams in your league charge a separate team fee outside of the registration fee? No.
Does your league provide the coaches with any practice or game equipment other than fields and officials? The league provides each team with 2 game balls, ~2 practice balls, repair kit, 2 tees (XP and Kicking), use of at least three different sleds (5-man, 1 man, 2 man), chutes.
We are the least expensive program in our area (others charging $290+ deposits for everything), we don't mess with deposit checks. The inner-city funded organizations and boys&girls clubs do not charge to join.
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Post by Shotgun1 on Apr 5, 2009 21:02:27 GMT -6
*$190 provides everything except cleats, socks, and mouth guard
*We play 9 games
*Dummies, tees, balls, scrimmage vests, med kits, ice packs, equipment kits are provided to coaches
*We do no active fundraising
*WE do a clothing order form in conjuction with a local sporting goods store which kicks back a small profit per item ordered. Made $6,000 last year from this.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 6, 2009 11:35:23 GMT -6
$75, 10-12 games almost all in HS Stadiums
All orgs in league are independent, we just pay the league $600 per team to enter, the rest of the money we use to outfit ourselves etc
No fund raising ( we do sell sponsorships)
All equipment including game jersey,practice jersey, game socks, mouthpieces included, minus shoes
Kids dont keep the game jersey
I provide all the dummys, cones, med kits to coaches
When we travel to tourneys we do fundraise, parents choice.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Apr 9, 2009 18:38:12 GMT -6
Local parks and rec is incharge of the league here, and each player pays $15. That covers all equipment except personal stuff like cleats, 10 games on a 80 yard field, and one jamboree at the high school stadium. There are 5 teams in 8-10 and 5 in 11-12. Most of the 12 year olds that play are players that wouldn't physically be able to play school ball. No travel in the league, only games can be with league opponents in town. Can only have 3 events a week, so if they have 2 games, which most will on Tuesday and Thrusday, they can only have one practice on either Monday or Wednesday, and the practice cannot last more than an hour and 30 minutes no matter what. Also have a weight limit that keeps most of the best players on the lines, our starting RB for the seventh grade school team last year could only block in youth league because he was 2 pounds over the limit. If a player doesn't come to practice, you still have to play them atleast one quarter, no matter what.
If I was where some of you guys are, I would love to coach for the youth program, but here with all the crazy rules including defense and practice, I coach middle school ball. I coached one year of youth league, and it drove me crazy, other coaches complaining about my offense and defense until they got it banned, having to play kids that would never practice but would be at every game.
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Post by coachorr on Apr 11, 2009 6:52:57 GMT -6
$75 for a nine game season. All equipment, except cleats is provided. I think our grid kid organization tries to buy 50 to150 new helmets every year.
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Post by davecisar on Apr 11, 2009 7:29:11 GMT -6
Local parks and rec is incharge of the league here, and each player pays $15. That covers all equipment except personal stuff like cleats, 10 games on a 80 yard field, and one jamboree at the high school stadium. There are 5 teams in 8-10 and 5 in 11-12. Most of the 12 year olds that play are players that wouldn't physically be able to play school ball. No travel in the league, only games can be with league opponents in town. Can only have 3 events a week, so if they have 2 games, which most will on Tuesday and Thrusday, they can only have one practice on either Monday or Wednesday, and the practice cannot last more than an hour and 30 minutes no matter what. Also have a weight limit that keeps most of the best players on the lines, our starting RB for the seventh grade school team last year could only block in youth league because he was 2 pounds over the limit. If a player doesn't come to practice, you still have to play them atleast one quarter, no matter what. If I was where some of you guys are, I would love to coach for the youth program, but here with all the crazy rules including defense and practice, I coach middle school ball. I coached one year of youth league, and it drove me crazy, other coaches complaining about my offense and defense until they got it banned, having to play kids that would never practice but would be at every game. Unreal, where are you Vermont?  |
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Post by bigdog2003 on Apr 12, 2009 10:48:56 GMT -6
South Carolina, the league isn't affiliated with any national organization and they make up the rules they want. I loved coaching the kids in the youth league, well most of them. Some of them didn't want to be there, mommy and daddy made them. If it wasn't for the crazy rules they have I may have stayed and coached youth league while I finish college. What really got me was when they told me, "All the other coaches got together and they don't think what you run on offense and defense is fair because they don't know how to stop the offense or attack the defense." Then I had to explain to my players why we had to learn a new offense and defense on Monday in an hour and a half, then turn around and play the next day. I told the guy from the league that maybe instead of punishing the coach that understood the game, he should find new coaches for the other teams that knew football and how to coach it. One coach wouldn't shake my brother (my DC), or my hand after one game because we wouldn't just let them score. He wanted us to tell the defense to not tackle their back because the score was 20-0.
The parents were asking me last year if I was coaching the team again and I told them no. That wanted to know why so I told them why, and some of them went to the league to complain. I had told the league every reason why I wasn't coaching for that league anymore, and they told me they were sorry that it had been so bad, but they were trying to help the coaches that didn't have a clue what they were doing. After two years, those parents and players still come up to me at high school games and around town and thank me for teaching the game the right way while being fair to all my players. I let anyone that wasn't over the weight limit carry the ball atleast once that wanted to, and everyone that attended practice got plenty of playing time. The parents have told me that we won even with me doing these things, we went 9-1, lossing only the game the night after we had to change offenses and defenses, and they told me that the next coach went 0-10 with the same team because he tried to find ways around the mpp rules and played favorities.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Apr 12, 2009 10:50:58 GMT -6
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Post by davecisar on Apr 12, 2009 11:37:23 GMT -6
Coach,
Bad pizza
The guys in that league sound like they should have teamed up with the Rich Rodriguez boys ex t-ball team and all the other fellow travelers that think no scores should be kept, every player play the same amount ( no matter if they showed to practice or not) and that the teams should all get together after each game drink juice boxes, fly earth day rainbow flags, sing kumbaya and get planning on their future soccer careers. ;D
The mega "special rules" guys and dont want to keep score guys, are rarely those good coaches that have success. Where I live, they are the the ones that want to legislate false outcomes or "no" outcomes to cover for their ineptness.
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Post by bigdog2003 on Apr 19, 2009 9:17:19 GMT -6
I was talking to the guy that is incharge of football here, and he said that raising the price isn't an option. I told him that with the extra money, they could have better equipment and buy some land to build a field after a few years, but he wasn't going for it. He said that it would price some kids out of the program. I don't think that $100 is to much to ask, if the kids want to play, the program could do fund raiser to help them. I told him that it would improve the quality of the league, but he doesn't believe me. I tried to tell him that parents might care more if they had to pay more than $15, they may bring kids to practice and to games on time.
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Post by brock242 on Apr 22, 2009 14:44:25 GMT -6
Ontario, Canada - our fee is $225 for 8 games plus at least one playoff game
includes all equipment except cleats and practice jersey. We use a PPK fund raiser similar to the "jog a thon" mentioned earlier. Teams are not allowed to charge extra fees beyond the $225 - team party money comes from the fund raiser. Coaches get all practice equipment provided for them and some years hats or jerseys (but not lately - we are saving to expand next year)
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Post by zbessac on Apr 25, 2009 9:25:36 GMT -6
We charge $165 and do no fundraising. This includes 7 games and all of the equipment except cleats. Our program does receive some grants. This is because over 50% of our kids receive a "scholarship" which means they are only charged $80. Seems to work for us.
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