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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 17, 2006 17:51:20 GMT -6
OK, I needed to put this on as our staff is having a friendly bet on this - But it does involve michelob so its pretty important.
On your team statistics ---
Some on the staff think that if you score an offensive TD your team gets a first down. You obviously got a first down if you scored --- for instance if inside the ten its called first and goal.
Others on the staff think that you do not get a first down on a touchdown.
OK, so whats the answer?
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Post by stackattack on Dec 17, 2006 18:51:58 GMT -6
Good question...when i compiled statistics at my old school I entered the stats into a palm pilot as the game was going on. After the game, I plugged it in and all the stats shot out. The program most definately gave a first down for a touchdown. I thought it was odd too, but our OC assured me that is the correct way of keeping stats.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 17, 2006 18:58:31 GMT -6
I have always counted a TD as a first down when doing stats.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 17, 2006 19:08:24 GMT -6
2006 Official NCAA Football Statisticians' Manual (pdf format) SECTION 1—FIRST DOWNSArticle 1. A first down shall be recorded whenever the yardsticks are ordered forward and/or when a touchdown is scored from scrimmage (rushing or passing) within a series of downs starting from 10 yards or more from the goal line, or when a dead-ball foul results in an automatic first down (see Section 1, Article 6). Article 2. When a team satisfies the requirement for a first down (rushing or passing) and, after the whistle has blown to end the play, is awarded penalty yardage of sufficient distance for an additional first down, two first downs are recorded, one rushing (or passing) and one by penalty (see Section 1, Article 6 and Section 14, Articles 1-4). Article 3. A first down is not recorded on any runback (i.e., kickoff, punt, intercepted pass), regardless of the distance. Article 4. A first down is not recorded when a resultant loss of team possession occurs on a scrimmage play, even though the gain provides yardage necessary for a first down. Article 5. If the resultant recovery by Team A of a fumble on a scrimmage play provides the yardage necessary for a first down, the first down is credited to the category initiating the action. Article 6. A first down is recorded when a dead-ball foul results in a first down. Article 7. On the last play of the second or fourth quarter, if, in the scorer’s judgment, the offensive team advanced the ball to a first down, credit should be given whether or not the officials so signify.
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Post by fbdoc on Dec 17, 2006 20:39:10 GMT -6
I wouldn't want to be a ref in one of Huey's games! Who needs Timtheenchanter...
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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 18, 2006 6:39:40 GMT -6
AHA, beer for everyone - I won!
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