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Post by airman on Mar 29, 2006 19:01:44 GMT -6
I was wondering what you guys do when you catch one of your players telling you a lie?
do you correct it at once or do you wait and pull the kid aside or do you make a exampale of him infront of his peers?
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Post by williamcrehan on Mar 29, 2006 19:17:10 GMT -6
I talk to him alone and tell him the only way he will play another down is if he gives me a written apology with his signiture and his parents signiture. I like to have a CYA file. Cover your @$$.
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Post by airman on Mar 29, 2006 20:26:39 GMT -6
I talk to him alone and tell him the only way he will play another down is if he gives me a written apology with his signiture and his parents signiture. I like to have a CYA file. Cover your @$$. what do you do when he says, prove it, my parents will support me and not you. they will get your job for this. |
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 29, 2006 21:48:04 GMT -6
Lie to my face. Had it happen once. I saw the kid break a team rule, not 5 minutes after I warned him not to. And when I asked him about it he lied. Then lied again. Then the other coaches came in and backed me up. Finally he fessed up. He was a starter but a marginal one at that. He was benched the next game and spent more time on the sideline than the field the final 3 games. Senior too. Thing is he is exactly that way in the classroom. If your caught him red handed he would say he was framed.
Oh yeah I ripped him a new one too for lying to me.
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Post by brophy on Mar 30, 2006 7:15:52 GMT -6
bring him in the office with the other coaches and do the whole "Law & Order" thing on him. Kid gets busted out and realizes that WE KNOW ALL. He apologizes and he knows why he has to prove his trustworthyness again.
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 30, 2006 7:36:49 GMT -6
kids lie to an adults face about every 30 seconds...bust him right then and there and stick to your guns.
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Post by coachnorm on Mar 30, 2006 7:41:38 GMT -6
Calande's right a lot of kids have no conscience whatsoever about lying. They lie when the truth would work better. You've got to call them on it.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 30, 2006 9:45:55 GMT -6
Our "system", which is not perfect but has worked for us pretty well, is if you tell the truth (rule violation, etc.) you have 1/4 of the punishment. If you are caught in a lie- full punishment. So, full punishment may be 4 game suspension- be honest and it is 1 game. I can certainly accept that people will screw up now and then... I have no tolerance for liars. By the way... in reality, our penalties are similar to other schools (if you are truthful), they are 4x that if you are found lying... when we say it to our players we use the above explanation.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Mar 30, 2006 10:05:28 GMT -6
what do you do when he says, prove it, my parents will support me and not you. they will get your job for this.
Now this is just me spouting off because I've never been in that exact situation (not seriously anyway), but I've found a new job every time I was looking for one. The less concerned I have been about losing a job, the better I think I have performed at it (of course, I don't have a family so I can be a bit more selfish here)... if his folks will "get your job" tell him to go ahead and try, but in the meantime, what you say is the law and if he wants to earn back what he has lost, he is going to have to take some responsibility and show some character. The main purpose of football is to build and reveal character, and be ready for the challenges of life. If he refuses to accept that challenge, then regardless of his athletic ability, he will get you beat, and more importantly is setting himself up for failure later on in life. As a coach, I certainly can not accept contributing to a players failure, so I have to do what is right and not what is easy (I'd much rather they hate me now and appreciate me in 10 years than the reverse of that).
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Post by brophy on Mar 30, 2006 10:08:47 GMT -6
the last kid that lied to the coaching staff....  |
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Post by gamedog on Mar 30, 2006 10:19:25 GMT -6
Nobody makes you play a kid but you.
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Post by airman on Mar 30, 2006 10:39:38 GMT -6
Nobody makes you play a kid but you. i would like to think this but i know it is not true. if the super tells you to play the kid, you have two choices, play the kid and keep your job or not play the kid and look for a new job. let face it, if parents have connections, a school will sell a coach down the river. |
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Post by gamedog on Mar 30, 2006 10:42:56 GMT -6
Nobody makes you play a kid but you. i would like to think this but i know it is not true. if the super tells you to play the kid, you have two choices, play the kid and keep your job or not play the kid and look for a new job. let face it, if parents have connections, a school will sell a coach down the river. I would find a new job. I was looking for one when I found this one. |
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Post by joboo59 on Mar 30, 2006 17:30:07 GMT -6
If they lie to your face and you know it, call them out on it right away!
airman and gamedog....If you lose a job for playing the best players and not the one's "the people" want you to play, then the job wasn't worth having in the first place!!!
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Post by gamedog on Mar 31, 2006 7:16:17 GMT -6
that's what I said
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Post by aleator on Apr 2, 2006 8:08:39 GMT -6
must agree with the senator and gamedog . . .the greatest mistake a coach(person) can make is compromise what you believe. If the admin lacks a backbone then look for another job . . . life is too short.
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Post by lochness on Apr 2, 2006 15:22:52 GMT -6
Rip of their arms and beat them to within an inch of their life with them.
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Post by jhanawa on Apr 3, 2006 12:06:44 GMT -6
10x100yd bear crawls, 10x100 crab crawls, 10x100 yd sprints, 10x40 sprints, 10x gassers, 100 updowns, 10 Burma Roads.....
then ask him if he would like to change is answer or start over at the beginning......I like the Quarter punishment answer above, so he would do this three more times if the answer is still wrong.....
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