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Post by bulldogoption on Dec 18, 2006 9:47:05 GMT -6
Does anybody have this? I mean a digital camcorder that burns directly to the 3 inch DVDs.
What are your thoughts on the technology?
How much game film can you get on one 3" disc?
Can you put that 3" into a regular DVD player?
Any problems with format issues? i.e. dash or plus?
Is using the mini DVDs easier or harder than using digital 8 or mini DV tapes?
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Post by coachjd on Dec 18, 2006 11:40:27 GMT -6
depends what you want to do with the video after the game. If you just want it to view and make copies for coaches and players to watch then I think they are very good and better than mini-dv. If you want to ever use the video to input into editing software or imovie or moviemaker etc... then you want to use mini-dv so the video gets individually tagged each time pause is hit in between plays.
Has anyone used the new camera's that have the hard drive built in? If you have please share how you like them etc.. do they tag each video clip individually?
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Post by SAcoach on Dec 18, 2006 13:05:06 GMT -6
even on the mini dvd's its tagged individual
b/c it is still digital
but the dvd runs out of space quicker
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Post by coachjd on Dec 18, 2006 13:07:59 GMT -6
but on the dvd is it tagged?
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Post by SAcoach on Dec 18, 2006 13:20:21 GMT -6
not tagged with info but tagged so each is a cutup
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Post by Mav on Dec 18, 2006 14:28:40 GMT -6
Does anybody have this? I mean a digital camcorder that burns directly to the 3 inch DVDs. What are your thoughts on the technology? How much game film can you get on one 3" disc? Can you put that 3" into a regular DVD player? Any problems with format issues? i.e. dash or plus? Is using the mini DVDs easier or harder than using digital 8 or mini DV tapes? As coachjd stated, if you're not expecting to use a video editing program on your game film, this may be the way to go. The mini- DVDs that are used can be played in a typical DVD player. Couple that with a DVD duplicator and you'd have many copies within minutes after finishing your game. The harddrive camcorder has the same benefits as mini-DVD. It uses the exact same format (MPEG-2) as DVD, so you can burn directly to a DVD disk without conversion, plus the added benefits of not dealing with any external media. They typically record to a 20-30 GB harddrive that holds about 7 hours of video. But again, if you're expecting to use an editing application on it, you'd have to convert it to raw avi before the programs can read your video file. The conversion from MPEG-2 to raw avi is fast and easy with $30 software. Harddrive based camcorders are definetely the future IMHO, but because they're fairly new technology, they're still quite expensive. Mini-DV camcorders are still the industry standard. They're cheap and versitile. We bought a middle of the line, consumer grade JVC a couple of years back for about $250 - still working fine. |
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Post by SAcoach on Dec 18, 2006 14:30:39 GMT -6
Why do you have to convert it?
Just plug it in and use program that comes with DSV or windows moviemaker
and it will make it into a avi file and have to cuts automatic
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Post by Mav on Dec 18, 2006 14:57:52 GMT -6
Why do you have to convert it? Just plug it in and use program that comes with DSV or windows moviemaker and it will make it into a avi file and have to cuts automatic If the file is in DVD format (ie MPEG-2) it has to be converted to avi. You can do it a couple of ways - 1) stream the video out through an output port on you camcorder (s-video, firewire, etc) and into a program on your computer (I think this is what you're reffering to) 2) you take the DVD disk and put it into your DVD drive in your computer and convert the DVD files to avi. I don't think DSV or MovieMaker can't read DVD file directly. I think most people who hear about DVD camcorders believe it may be much easier because they can take the game DVD directly to their computer and/or DVD player, thereby skipping a couple of steps. Not really true. btw - there has been plenty of compatability issues with the Sony DVD camcorders. The disk only hold about 18 minutes for the standard high quality video. |
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Post by SAcoach on Dec 18, 2006 15:39:37 GMT -6
Gotcha....No saving time...but the same thing you would have to do with a mini dv camera....have to stream it through a program or computer ....
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