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Post by coachbullock on Dec 6, 2005 11:40:01 GMT -6
I am going to a school next year that is on a twenty three game losing streak. I have decided to leave my current job due to just wanting to see if I can get it going. We will have talnet in the younger groups, and HS level we will still be young but alot of young kids had to play last year. I will be OC and just want a little advice on s few things. 1. What are something you due to up moral and just kind of get energy back in a program? 2. Going to run I, spread and soem flex, we have a good young qb and decent recievers, and a big strong fb, no real tb, and a below avg line. What would you run? 3. Me and the head coach have been talking about starting some traditon rituals, do Yall have any that are pretty successful and that kids really by into. 4 Summer pride. What is your times of lifting, and things you do to keep it fun? Thanks Coach Bull
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Post by wildcat on Dec 6, 2005 14:29:46 GMT -6
Coach -
First and foremost, get some kind of lifting program going. Get those kids lifting NOW.
You can encourage lifting through t-shirts, the awarding of helmet decals, etc, etc, but get those kids lifting ASAP.
Xs and Os won't do you much good if your kids are slow, weak, and small.
We had a horrendous year this past season (1-8). Right now, Xs and Os are the LAST thing that I am worried about. Right now, I just want to get our guys bigger, faster, and stronger. My feeling is that if we can do that, the Xs and Os will be easy.
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Post by coachnorm on Dec 6, 2005 14:59:18 GMT -6
Here are some ideas: 1. Adapt the system to fit the players. Xs and Os aren't the biggest thing making them fit your players is pretty important. 2. Make improvements. Do something that tells everyone that things have changed - put up new banners, quotes, a fresh coat of paint, improve the facilities, anything that will send that message. 3. Build speed. Weights are important both as part of a speed improvement plan and in addition to it, but SPEED is the great equalizer in athletics. Work on speed development and condition for explosion. 4. Get it going in the weight room. Making your athletes stronger makes them more confident, more athletic and less susceptible to injury. The lifeblood of any good football program is a strong weight program. 5. focus on special teams as a difference maker. Even if you can't match up with another team offensively or defensively spending time and effort on special teams will help close the gap. If your special teams can help create or set up a score or two suddenly a suspect offense or defense looks that much better. 6. Put in the P.R. work. Meet with parents, the community, anyone who can influence attitudes toward your program. Get everyone on board with what you are doing. make them feel like a part of the team.
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Post by toprowguy on Dec 6, 2005 16:31:51 GMT -6
If your trying to to build up numbers make it fun for the kids.
When I say fun I don't mean easy, I mean make everything they do fun. If other kids see them having fun that will encourage others to jion.
The more they have the harder they will work because it will not feel like work.
Have a competition day every week during the offseason to build up team moral and competiveness.
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Post by phantom on Dec 6, 2005 20:26:06 GMT -6
1. The best way to build morale and energy is for the coaches to have energy in the offseason. Don't worry about who gets paid for the weight room. All coaches who aren't coaching another sport have to be in there and all have to be into it. A good agility program can be a great place to build excitement. 2. Rituals can help. These are a couple of things that we do: A. TEAM-me. We made that our motto, big TEAM followed by a little "me". To reinforce that we put a sign with TEAM on one of the doors leading to the practice field, and another with "me" on the other. The players must exit through the proper door and, on the way up, reach up and touch the sign and yell "Team" on the way out. On the way to games we do the same thing even though it means we have to walk around the building.
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Post by airman on Dec 6, 2005 21:50:24 GMT -6
I am going to a school next year that is on a twenty three game losing streak. I have decided to leave my current job due to just wanting to see if I can get it going. We will have talnet in the younger groups, and HS level we will still be young but alot of young kids had to play last year. I will be OC and just want a little advice on s few things. 1. What are something you due to up moral and just kind of get energy back in a program? 2. Going to run I, spread and soem flex, we have a good young qb and decent recievers, and a big strong fb, no real tb, and a below avg line. What would you run? 3. Me and the head coach have been talking about starting some traditon rituals, do Yall have any that are pretty successful and that kids really by into. 4 Summer pride. What is your times of lifting, and things you do to keep it fun? Thanks Coach Bull a guy I know took over a program like this. they were really down adn had been for a number of years. they would win a couple games and that would be it. when he took over, he promoted every soph to varisty. unless there was a jr or sr who was much better. he played those sophs, they got beat on their frist year, the second year they were much better 6-3. their sr they won state and started a winning streak. the jrs kept the streak going and won anther state. they won 29 in arow at one point. sadly, the coach left for a bigger school and the school went back into the crapper again. during the winning streak they were noted for exceptional special teams play. they really worked on it a lot. he said it was the great equalizer. they also had long practices and long preseason practices. they would start in the morining at 8 am and get done at 4:30. the would take breaks. but they would practice 4 times aday.
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Post by tog on Dec 6, 2005 21:57:39 GMT -6
I have been a part of a reclamation project. We turned it around from back to back 1-9 seasons to playoff contenders year in and year out. Now starting a new school and the problems are much the same.
The biggest thing I can think of is just expectations and the demands that go with that. What do you as the coach expect? What kind of demands do you put on yourself to get those met? What kind of demands do you put on the kids to get those met? Can you do this in a way that the kids understand that you are doing this to make them better people and not JUST players? Can you do this in a way that is fun?
What it all boils down to is, can you get them to bust their ass?
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Post by jackedup on Dec 6, 2005 22:43:00 GMT -6
Coach... To go along with the weight room theme... I would say you should find something to give the kids ownership of being apart of a team. How are you locker rooms? Weight room condition? This past year unintentionally we gave our kids some ownership and they took off with it and are still playing this weekend in the state championship. We started by just redoing the coaches office more for ourselves than anybody else. We asked some of the seniors to help paint it with us. This took off into redoing the ENTIRE locker room. New benches, painted everything, got an alumn to come in and paint the mascot, put up our motto on the walls. The coaches had nothing to do with the locker room. All we did was supervise and paint. All the design and work was put in after lifting. One time this summer, we got a report they were there working with the custodians till 4 am. It is something they are proud of and it built pride in and among themselves.
Another approach - which has already been mentioned sort of - be creative and fun with your schemes. Do something outrageous offensively, defensively, and special teams. Sell the idea to your kids as just wanting to have fun.
A point that I feel is important to have... is a "leadership course". Choose a few seniors, juniors, and sophmores that you feel have leadership qualities and that are respected by their peers. Then mold them and use them as your voice to the team. If they buy into your ideas, goals, and aspirations, then the rest of the team will as well.
Good Luck!!
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Post by coachjd on Dec 7, 2005 5:47:19 GMT -6
Excellent post!!
I also think attitude is contagious. Any one associated with a program that is in the process of rebuilding needs to have a great attitude. NO MATTER WHAT!! The job is not easy. There will be tough times. How do you handle adversity. The attitude of the leaders of the program send a huge message.
you must bring a great attitude into the weight room, team meetings, etc...
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Post by brophy on Dec 7, 2005 8:36:43 GMT -6
great ideas, fellas.....but the NUMBER ONE thing, that I found to help, is involve the parents as much as possible!!
Parents = boosters, boosters = money, money = freedom to work for the kid's best interest.
If the PARENTS believe in what you're selling it won't make a hill of beans difference if the kids believe (to be honest).
If the PARENTS make the kids accountable, half your job is won (instead of parents making excuses for the kids).....which, by in large, is WHY programs head in the crapper (internal strife). Just my $0.02.
I have seen very few Friday night games won by X's & O's.
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Post by Coach Dingus on Dec 23, 2005 15:08:48 GMT -6
Have a team lift board Bench-230 Squat- 340 Clean-200 make a board with those catagories and hang in the wt room. Call it the "team goal board" once a player makes one of those lift wts put his name up there untill he gets all three. It puts competion in lifting and dermination.
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Post by sls on Dec 23, 2005 16:23:06 GMT -6
I have worked at 3 schools, 2 as an assistant and my first one right now as a head coach. My first job was major rebuilding and my first head job right now is a major rebuilding project.
3 Pieces of advice I would give that has worked at bot rebuilding projects...
1. Take out the trash! get rid of everybody (including coaches) that does not believe or want to work in year 1 when wins mean very little.
2. Play your frosh and sophs in year 1, they will get run over but by the time they are seniors they will be the hammers. You will lose some, but the ones that stay will be tough dudes!
3. Do something that is an equalizer on offense. First rebuilding job we ran flexbone veer and now we run Spread. I have found in my present job that the spread makes it very esy to recruit athlets that never played football before at my school.
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Post by easternkycoach on Dec 29, 2005 1:02:11 GMT -6
You have to make kids want to compete and hate to lose. Make off season activities competitive, you will find out who your leaders are and who will quit on you. Get rid of anyone who doesn't get with the program including coaches. Turds with speed and athletic potential will never win games for you and they dishearten the guys who will run through walls for your program. Show me a guy who has an excuse to not get better and I'll show you a guy who will blame everyone else when you lose and take all the credit when you win.
I've been a coach in almost every kind of offense and I would say try something like Air Force, Army, Navy, flexbone, wing t, maybe wishbone, some option, misdirection, quick hitting runs, playaction pass, and a simple 3 step drop game, maybe a screen or two, defensively something you can adapt easily, 4-3, 5-2, 4-4, special teams keep it simple.
Hit the weight room hard and fast, explosive movements/plyos, and agilities and speed work, as much as you and they can handle.
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Post by coachdawhip on Apr 27, 2006 9:44:50 GMT -6
Coaches already said it.
1. Do something new!
2. Weight Room
3. Play underclassmen unless Seniors or just way better
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Post by tog on Apr 27, 2006 10:49:07 GMT -6
get rid of anyone that is bitter or negative
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Post by runtheball86 on Apr 28, 2006 8:33:14 GMT -6
A good coach fits his players to his system......a GREAT coach fits his system to his players.
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Post by superpower on Apr 28, 2006 8:44:35 GMT -6
Create an identity. The great programs, at any level, hang their hat on something that their opponents respect (and even fear). It might be an offense (Oklahoma's wishbone in the 70s and 80s, Nebraska's I formation in the 70s and 80s, Spurrier's Fun 'n Gun at Florida, the Utah spread) or a defense (the Steelers' Steel Curtain, the Patriots' 3-4, Penn State - Linebacker U), but I think it is very important to create an identity for your program.
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Post by baggins52 on Apr 28, 2006 15:31:09 GMT -6
get rid of anyone that is bitter or negative Tis is huge! we have been fighting this the past couple years. our team will start fine until the negative crybabies start whining and hanging their heads once we get down, then the entire team will rollover and die. Most are gone for next year, should be able to improve.
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