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Post by codered on Mar 30, 2006 7:33:04 GMT -6
I have a chance to move up as a coordinator, but I won't be able to run the stuff I want to run. How often does this happen? Is this the only way to get a coordinator job?
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Post by brophy on Mar 30, 2006 7:40:35 GMT -6
I have a chance to move up as a coordinator, but I won't be able to run the stuff I want to run. How often does this happen? Is this the only way to get a coordinator job? how do you know "your stuff" works? What is so different about "your stuff" from the stuff you'll be running? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2006 8:21:25 GMT -6
I think if you're already on staff then the head coach's stuff is your stuff and you ought to welcome his vote of confidence in your abilities. If you're on the outside looking to join a new staff you don't have to go into a job where you aren't comfortable with the scheme.
Are you proposing radical changes or some minor ones? I mean are they a veer team and you want to go 5-wide or is it more like you are a big cover 2 guy but the boss only wants to run man and cover 3? There's probably been a big time investment in what's being run now, and would hate to sacrifice it and start over, but that's only if you want to change the whole scheme.
I'd look at it this way:
1) If the team is having success with the other scheme, the head coach is counting on you to continue that success and build upon it with no needed changes.
2) If the team hasn't had a lot of success in the other scheme but the coach believes in it, he's relying on you to get it done
3) If the head coach happens to not be a good X's and O's guy but maybe was a great OL coach or something, and his stuff has huge faults, then as the coordinator you're in a position to work with the boss to make the necessary improvements in what he wants to do.
Big difference in whether you want to make wholesale changes or just work in something new. The boss may not always be right, but he's always the boss.
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Post by pegleg on Mar 30, 2006 8:39:22 GMT -6
don't do anything thats not you. better to stick around where you are than go do someone else'e stuff. you have no ownership in his stuff and whats to stop him from getting pissed at you for not doing it "his" way. everyone does things differently, even if the x's and o's are the the same.
has he been an oc, was he the oc, why is he hiring an oc? could turn into a title only thing, which isn't bad in and of itself but might be for you. and you might not do anything "wrong" but if its not the way he thinks it should happen, then your in a bind.
be very careful about going somewhere to run someone else's stuff, can be a trap. don't take the title just to have the title. sometimes better to be a soldier than a captain. to me the bottom line is how well do you know the guy? he has to trust you and youo have to trust him. if you 2 are strangers, then that might be a tough thing to develope.
just my little rant. hope it helps some.
Holla
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Post by tvt50 on Mar 30, 2006 9:19:27 GMT -6
If your not running your stuff than your not coordinating. Youve got a title. If he believes so much in his stuff why isnt he coordinating it and calling the plays?
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Post by rig on Mar 30, 2006 13:24:18 GMT -6
You have to follow the Head Coach's philosophy of football. Work out a game plan with the Head Coach or get his approval. This lets him see what you are thinking and how you plan to handle different situations in the game. If he has different ideas you can work them out prior to that weeks practice and game so both of you are on the same page.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 30, 2006 13:37:07 GMT -6
Here is my take, if its something you know and believe in than take it, if its something you dont think could work then turn it down. For example, I like veer Navy type attack, and spread and feel comfortable coaching both even though they are different. I dont have alot of experience with the I other than the basics (iso, power, trap, toss). Therefore, I would feel comfortable taking a job in either a spread set or option set if the coach dictated this, however, if he was looking for an I man I would turn it down.
Here's another scenario. What if you really want an OC position, and feel ready to take one over. However, the OC at your school doesnt seem to be going anywhere. Throw in the fact that you are extremely loyal to the HC b/c he gave you your first job and you have worked your butt off for him and he has rewarded your loyalty in the past. What do you do? Wait out and see if the OC ever moves on or basically slap the HC who you admire greatly in the face and look outside your current setting?
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